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Posted by: Karizee.8076

Karizee.8076

The new Leaderboards now have a filter by Guild function. If you hover over the achievement points it shows the date they last earned a point.

This may not account for everyone as there may possibly be players that never get a point (can’t quite conceive how but) you can throw those players into a special rank and send them an ingame mail to advise you next time they log in and flush them out if you don’t hear from them.

(btw – our guild of 497 members with generally 80-100 online at any given time only has a handful that haven’t earned a point in over the last 2 weeks. 2 weeks was the longest since anyone has earned a point)

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Posted by: Vorch.2985

Vorch.2985

…YOU ARE A GENIUS. ty ty ty ty

Gonna tell my guild about this. They need to add this in-game, though

It’s not perfect (what if someone plays but earns no points?) but it’s something.

Here’s what people thought of GW1 when it first came out: http://tinyurl.com/bntcvyc
“A release is 7 days or less away or has just happened within the last 7 days…
These are the only two states you’ll find the world of Tyria.”

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Posted by: Rising Dusk.2408

Rising Dusk.2408

This is great, but unfortunately it doesn’t track back before the leaderboards were active (this is why it doesn’t track past ~2 weeks ago). Thanks for the catch!

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Posted by: Vorch.2985

Vorch.2985

This is great, but unfortunately it doesn’t track back before the leaderboards were active (this is why it doesn’t track past ~2 weeks ago). Thanks for the catch!

I see people who haven’t earned an achievement point since 3/26. I think leaderboards were added the 7th of april or something?

Most of my guild has been active within the last week, with about 30 within 2 weeks and a dozen or so greater than that.

Here’s what people thought of GW1 when it first came out: http://tinyurl.com/bntcvyc
“A release is 7 days or less away or has just happened within the last 7 days…
These are the only two states you’ll find the world of Tyria.”

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Posted by: Rouven.7409

Rouven.7409

Maybe these people have been online within the last two weeks but not earned an achievement point.

“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”

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Posted by: Rising Dusk.2408

Rising Dusk.2408

I see people who haven’t earned an achievement point since 3/26. I think leaderboards were added the 7th of april or something?

Remember they tracked them for a few weeks before releasing them to the public.

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Posted by: Vorch.2985

Vorch.2985

I see people who haven’t earned an achievement point since 3/26. I think leaderboards were added the 7th of april or something?

Remember they tracked them for a few weeks before releasing them to the public.

oh, i see. My bad.

Here’s what people thought of GW1 when it first came out: http://tinyurl.com/bntcvyc
“A release is 7 days or less away or has just happened within the last 7 days…
These are the only two states you’ll find the world of Tyria.”

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Posted by: Rouven.7409

Rouven.7409

It still serves as a mean to identify inactive people?

Edit: Not sure why in that respect it is unfortunate that it doesn’t track further back into the past.

“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”

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Posted by: Karizee.8076

Karizee.8076

I broke it down For Science.

3/26 – 2
3/27 – 4
3/28 – 3
3/29 – 7
3/30 – 3
3/31 – 5
4/1-4/17 – 473

It looks like March 26 is the oldest date.
So out of our guild of 497 members we have 2 possible inactives – yay us!

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Posted by: ShiningSquirrel.3751

ShiningSquirrel.3751

I log on many days without getting an achievement point, so I guess the fact that I am one of the most active members would not make a difference. Seems like it’s not a good system to use to kick players by.
But then again, I did not play for 2 weeks due to my pet being injured and having more important RL things to deal with, so again, so I guess that’s a good reason to kick me as well. I guess I should be careful when I go on vacation this year and make sure to take my computer with me.
But oh wait, since I am the guild leader of 1 guild, and a member of another that does not micro manage, I don’t have to worry about it. ;-)

It’s nice not to be in a “mega” guild that is to big for it’s own good, LOL!

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Posted by: Aeonblade.8709

Aeonblade.8709

This is a great find, but use this information with caution! Remember, not everyone gets an achievement every day or every week for that matter. Still a good catch OP

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Posted by: Karizee.8076

Karizee.8076

I’m not suggesting autokick for anyone that hasn’t earned a point over a certain period. I’m well aware there may be people that log in only to /dance in Lion’s Arch.

If you have not seen the person + they have not notified you of taking a break + they have not earned a point over the last month you may well wonder if they are active. Put them in a rank “One Foot Out” and send them an ingame mail to contact you – IF – only if you are concerned about inactives on your roster.

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Posted by: rozcinana.7249

rozcinana.7249

Thanks for the info, it will be useful!

Hmm… this has made me realize that one of my officers who I am in constant competition with is beating me in achievement points… Sorry legendary, looks like you’re on the sidelines while I figure out how to get dem points…

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Posted by: Ruprect.7260

Ruprect.7260

I log on many days without getting an achievement point, so I guess the fact that I am one of the most active members would not make a difference. Seems like it’s not a good system to use to kick players by.
But then again, I did not play for 2 weeks due to my pet being injured and having more important RL things to deal with, so again, so I guess that’s a good reason to kick me as well. I guess I should be careful when I go on vacation this year and make sure to take my computer with me.
But oh wait, since I am the guild leader of 1 guild, and a member of another that does not micro manage, I don’t have to worry about it. ;-)

It’s nice not to be in a “mega” guild that is to big for it’s own good, LOL!

People are blowing this out of proportion. I don’t think most guild are gonna jump on and find everyone that has not been on for 2 weeks and give them the boot lol.

This is something that however could be used a few months down the road to start removing ppl that have been inactive for 3+ months.

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Posted by: Rising Dusk.2408

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People are blowing this out of proportion. I don’t think most guild are gonna jump on and find everyone that has not been on for 2 weeks and give them the boot lol.

This is something that however could be used a few months down the road to start removing ppl that have been inactive for 3+ months.

Bingo.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

Ayrilana.1396

You could get your members’ user names and create something that automates updating everything. You select people to be in a watch list and you can track how active they are. It’s no different than gw2spidy or some crafting guides.

There’s some creative people out there so I’m sure someone could make something.

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Posted by: Humposaurus.5764

Humposaurus.5764

Or ANet could just implement a “Last online since..” bar in the guild roster… Like in GW1. Atm it’s very hard to track inactive people in a maxed guild, since ANet removed the “Unknown” status with a few patches ago.

Really ANet just implement the kitten thing already, it can’t be that hard…

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Posted by: Rising Dusk.2408

Rising Dusk.2408

Atm it’s very hard to track inactive people in a maxed guild, since ANet removed the “Unknown” status with a few patches ago.

I had no idea they removed that, and was wondering why that never showed up anymore!

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Posted by: Humposaurus.5764

Humposaurus.5764

And for some reason when I click on my guild to see this, nothing happens…

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Posted by: Deified.7520

Deified.7520

It seems that if someone doesn’t appear on the list, they haven’t earned an achivement since release of the leaderboards, if since they started tracking them. My guild hasabout 200 people, and we’re missing about 80 members on the list.

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Posted by: Humposaurus.5764

Humposaurus.5764

So it does work? What browser do you use? Nothing happens when I try to select my guild on Firefox.

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Posted by: Aye.8392

Aye.8392

This is definitely something I can live with — it lets the guild leaders who want to track activity/inactivity be able to do so without creating any drama for those casual guilds among us that don’t care about activity level. I don’t have to listen to a relative newcomer to my guild kitten that, “So-and-so (who has been a valuable member of my guild for six years, has been a part of the foundation that the guild was built upon, but who currently has other things going on in his life) is an officer, and he hasn’t been on for a month!”

Nice workaround and nice find Karizee

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Posted by: Humposaurus.5764

Humposaurus.5764

Lol it works with all the Alt-guilds I’m in except for the one with 500 members… GG ANet

Edit
It worked but only shows up a list with 50 people, I have 150 guildmembers online atm…
I guess the system is still broken and will be fixed soon. And with ANet’s way of fixing these things it wouldn’t surprise that they will just remove the date completly…

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Posted by: Karizee.8076

Karizee.8076

So it does work? What browser do you use? Nothing happens when I try to select my guild on Firefox.

Go to the Achievements Leaderboard
https://leaderboards.guildwars2.com/en/na/achievements

Select “Guild” in the Filter by drop down box.
Select the guild you would like to see in the Select a guild… drop down box (if you are in more than one)
It pulls up a list of your members.
Float your mouse pointer over the number in the Achievements column and you should see a date such as “Since 4/16/13 1:00AM PDT”

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Posted by: Humposaurus.5764

Humposaurus.5764

Yeye I’m not a complete idiot lol. I finally got a list of my 500 members. It just took a while for the leaderboards to gather the data I guess.

Now for the criticism. Can ANet just add the “Since date x” to a column on the right or left. This would make sorting this stuff ALOT easier.

Edit:
Ooh and add every member to the list, not just the ones that logged in after the leaderboards were launched.

I still prefer the “Last online since…” in the guild roster, which I descriped in my first post. Please ANet help us manage our guilds more effective and efficient.

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Posted by: Mirta.5029

Mirta.5029

I log on many days without getting an achievement point, so I guess the fact that I am one of the most active members would not make a difference. Seems like it’s not a good system to use to kick players by.
But then again, I did not play for 2 weeks due to my pet being injured and having more important RL things to deal with, so again, so I guess that’s a good reason to kick me as well. I guess I should be careful when I go on vacation this year and make sure to take my computer with me.
But oh wait, since I am the guild leader of 1 guild, and a member of another that does not micro manage, I don’t have to worry about it. ;-)

It’s nice not to be in a “mega” guild that is to big for it’s own good, LOL!

the thing is you get an achievement point every time you do something from the list of your daily things. Chances are if you’re active you will end up doing something from it. So it’s an okay system to judge stuff from.

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Posted by: Rainzar.6905

Rainzar.6905

got excited.. then dissapointed. i don’t blame the OP, its Anet’s fault we are down this path in dealing with inactives etc.

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Posted by: Rage The Numbers.7943

Rage The Numbers.7943

MISS! Hi. The only issue I see is that this doesn’t list all 497 guild members, only 258.

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Posted by: ShiningSquirrel.3751

ShiningSquirrel.3751

I log on many days without getting an achievement point, so I guess the fact that I am one of the most active members would not make a difference. Seems like it’s not a good system to use to kick players by.
But then again, I did not play for 2 weeks due to my pet being injured and having more important RL things to deal with, so again, so I guess that’s a good reason to kick me as well. I guess I should be careful when I go on vacation this year and make sure to take my computer with me.
But oh wait, since I am the guild leader of 1 guild, and a member of another that does not micro manage, I don’t have to worry about it. ;-)

It’s nice not to be in a “mega” guild that is to big for it’s own good, LOL!

the thing is you get an achievement point every time you do something from the list of your daily things. Chances are if you’re active you will end up doing something from it. So it’s an okay system to judge stuff from.

I log on many time without finishing anything in the dailies, believe it or not, some people do not actually do their dailies each day! ;-)
You do also know that just logging on gives your guild influence?
People are going to use some kind of system to monitor their guild. The problem I have with any of them is the attitude of some guild leaders. You must represent 100% and log in every day, etc. This is an MMORPG that you should be able to put down for a while and then come back to. There are just to many guild leaders who are fanatics. OMG, this player has not logged in for 30 day! kick him! Is it really that important? Is having a guild of 400+ players really doing you any good that you have to kick players who may have taken a break? I see no reason to have a guild of more then 50 players, tops. If you don’t even know the names or anything about these players in your guild, why are they in your guild? If they are in your guild, why don’t you know when they will be away for awhile? As a guild leader, when was the last time you spoke to each of your members besides sending nasty notes to remind them to represent? Do you know anything about them? Their real names? Age? I bet not.
Knowing when someone last logged on can be useful for deciding who to promote, using it to decide who to get rid of is “not so much”.
I just don’t care for these mega guilds that care more about numbers then anything else.
Our guild always had 1 simple rule in all games we played. Once a member, always a member.

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Posted by: Rising Dusk.2408

Rising Dusk.2408

MISS! Hi. The only issue I see is that this doesn’t list all 497 guild members, only 258.

This means they have not acquired an achievement point since the system was brought online a few weeks back.

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MISS! Hi. The only issue I see is that this doesn’t list all 497 guild members, only 258.

This means they have not acquired an achievement point since the system was brought online a few weeks back.

If true, this is the opposite of what we need, hah

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Posted by: Vorch.2985

Vorch.2985

@ShiningSquirrel

Some members never comeback or leave for months at a time. An active and lively guild is important for most guilds I’ve been in. Otherwise, you’re just a random group of people.

Here’s what people thought of GW1 when it first came out: http://tinyurl.com/bntcvyc
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Posted by: MastemaRose.6703

MastemaRose.6703

I’ve got a handful of people that do not show up on the leaderboards.
Of they’re not on the list at all, does that mean they haven’t been active since before they started tracking?

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Posted by: Rising Dusk.2408

Rising Dusk.2408

Of they’re not on the list at all, does that mean they haven’t been active since before they started tracking?

This means they have not acquired an achievement point since the system was brought online a few weeks back. That does not necessarily mean they haven’t logged on, so use it as you will.

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Posted by: Ema.4953

Ema.4953

IS that something only guild leaders can see? When I try it, it doesn’t filter by guild at all. It goes grey for a few seconds then just displays the leaderboard as it was before, showing all ranked players across all servers

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Posted by: Cowrex.9564

Cowrex.9564

You sir! Won the GW2 forums! Hell, I’d hand you a medal right now if i can! ANET, give this man a medal!

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

I am not sure that the leaderboard shows the last time someone received an achievement point, but the last time they were logged in when the achievement boards updated. (The time in question more of a ‘as of this date and time’ thing.) As, for me, it shows 7am, and the last time I got a point was the night before.

Also, I am not sure this information is all that pertinent to a guild, as it does not show which guild the person was representing when they were online, just that they were, in fact, online at said time.

Use it as you will….

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Posted by: Kendra Nightwind.8734

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Why doesn’t it work for me? When I select Guild nothing happens…

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Posted by: ShiningSquirrel.3751

ShiningSquirrel.3751

@ShiningSquirrel

Some members never comeback or leave for months at a time. An active and lively guild is important for most guilds I’ve been in. Otherwise, you’re just a random group of people.

Read my post again. If you have a guild of 400+ people and don’t even know who they are, they are nothing but a random group of people.
Guilds should be made up of friends or people you like to play with, not random people invited by spamming chat. If you feel you have to delete someone who has not been on for a few months, then they where not your friend, and you really did not know them, so why where they even in the guild in the first place? just to fill a spot?

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@ShiningSquirrel

Some members never comeback or leave for months at a time. An active and lively guild is important for most guilds I’ve been in. Otherwise, you’re just a random group of people.

Read my post again. If you have a guild of 400+ people and don’t even know who they are, they are nothing but a random group of people.
Guilds should be made up of friends or people you like to play with, not random people invited by spamming chat. If you feel you have to delete someone who has not been on for a few months, then they where not your friend, and you really did not know them, so why where they even in the guild in the first place? just to fill a spot?

Forget +1, how can I +1000000 this post???

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Ema.4953

Read my post again. If you have a guild of 400+ people and don’t even know who they are, they are nothing but a random group of people.
Guilds should be made up of friends or people you like to play with, not random people invited by spamming chat. If you feel you have to delete someone who has not been on for a few months, then they where not your friend, and you really did not know them, so why where they even in the guild in the first place? just to fill a spot?

So for those, like me, that don’t know of any real world friends that play this game, we should remain guildless? Because …. why? Guild are just for friends? They don’t provide an opportunity to meet new people ?

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Conner.4702

@ShiningSquirrel

Some members never comeback or leave for months at a time. An active and lively guild is important for most guilds I’ve been in. Otherwise, you’re just a random group of people.

Read my post again. If you have a guild of 400+ people and don’t even know who they are, they are nothing but a random group of people.
Guilds should be made up of friends or people you like to play with, not random people invited by spamming chat. If you feel you have to delete someone who has not been on for a few months, then they where not your friend, and you really did not know them, so why where they even in the guild in the first place? just to fill a spot?

Forget +1, how can I +1000000 this post???

And I am going to have to -1000000 his post due to the extremely narrowminded viewpoint on what a guild is. Guilds come in many forms, but the most important function they have is forming a community. This can be big or small. Tight knit or not. As such someone who isn’t actively part can be seen as a detriment to that community.

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

@ShiningSquirrel

Some members never comeback or leave for months at a time. An active and lively guild is important for most guilds I’ve been in. Otherwise, you’re just a random group of people.

Read my post again. If you have a guild of 400+ people and don’t even know who they are, they are nothing but a random group of people.
Guilds should be made up of friends or people you like to play with, not random people invited by spamming chat. If you feel you have to delete someone who has not been on for a few months, then they where not your friend, and you really did not know them, so why where they even in the guild in the first place? just to fill a spot?

Forget +1, how can I +1000000 this post???

And I am going to have to -1000000 his post due to the extremely narrowminded viewpoint on what a guild is. Guilds come in many forms, but the most important function they have is forming a community. This can be big or small. Tight knit or not. As such someone who isn’t actively part can be seen as a detriment to that community.

I find it hard to see how someone who is absent entirely is a detriment to a community. The only thing I can think of is that if a guild has a limited number of slots and they’re running out, having non-participating members could be seen as a detriment.

I can even see if someone is repping other guilds all the time and not yours that that might be seen as a detriment.

But not showing up is like you don’t exist at all. Every single person in the world not in your guild, then, would be a detriment.

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Posted by: SkyShroud.2865

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the ppl inside the list are most likely to be active….
i am inside a 300 size inactive roaster and noticed most inactive ppl are not inside the list, so they hav not been online to be captured by the system
i compared it against a 400 size roaster which is mostly active and many of them are in the list….

this method have to be used with caution though

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Posted by: Rage The Numbers.7943

Rage The Numbers.7943

Wow, this will be very useful once they add the extremely inactive people as well.

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Posted by: mosselyn.5081

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Not to be a wet blanket (my guild wants to make similar use of this data), but has ANet weighed in on whether or not scraping the leaderboards is a TOS violation? I haven’t been able to find anything from them, and my (confused) reading of the TOS is that it might be. I’m referring to this document, in the section labeled “Your Use of the Sites”, esp. the first paragraph:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/website-terms-of-use/

My legal language skills are very weak, though – by the time I get to about the 20th clause, I can’t figure out which end is up.

Edit: Legal language as a martial art = kittens. Fixt.

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Posted by: Aye.8392

Aye.8392

Why doesn’t it work for me? When I select Guild nothing happens…

You have to log in to the leader board to be able to filter by guild.

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Posted by: Huntyre.7341

Huntyre.7341

Thank you!!!

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South of Heaven
[NA] Crystal Desert

Guild Leaders! A way to see your inactives!

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Posted by: fileark.4709

fileark.4709

Big thumbs up for this app Healix, I was using a bookmarklet and the web based leaderboard but it is getting unresponsive and slow.

Many thanks.