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Posted by: Cactus Brawler.7415

Cactus Brawler.7415

Frankly this is disgusting, unprofessional and the type of crap that gives Steam Greenlight games a bad name.

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Posted by: Blademaster.6123

Blademaster.6123

Can we get blank legendary especially then?

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Posted by: Kamara.4187

Kamara.4187

This was a good call. The issues with the foundation of the game needs to be addressed before new content. This is what we have all been asking for and it is basic common sense that the core game needs to be right before anything else people…jump back and let them breathe. We can revisit legendaries later.

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Posted by: Keriana.9635

Keriana.9635

I am happy with this decision as I would really like some more LW and story content.

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Posted by: WereDragon.6083

WereDragon.6083

I’m okay with this… Aside form Nevermore most of the legendaries broke my immersion quite a bit. Like the unicorn bow or the plasma-bladed dagger…..

What do we say to the god of death? Not Today….
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Posted by: samu.3764

samu.3764

10 million black lion skins a week trying to get my money yet if i buy an expansion i have to grind for everything and half of what was promised isnt there
money back pls

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Posted by: foxcat.4096

foxcat.4096

Probably for the best but i wonder if it would be possible to release the other legendary in the style of the original ledgends i.e without any collection just a random chance for pre through drops or mystic forge.

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Posted by: cranos.5913

cranos.5913

You should’ve just scrapped the treasure hunt tbh. Use the pre-HoT system of getting precursors as drops, then it no longer takes up so much development time and you alleviate some of the horrible grind that comes with these new legendaries. In the end people just want their shinies anyway.

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Posted by: ShadowAgent.6053

ShadowAgent.6053

Dear Arena Net,

Regardless of your reasons and trying to explain it to us, the fact of the matter is that HoT still is unfinished and now you’re telling us you won’t even bother for some parts.

The situation you have put yourselves in is ridiculous, to say the least.

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Posted by: Khyan.7039

Khyan.7039

I personnaly think it’s better to do others content than others legendary without new gameplay…

But I guess I’m the only one to think about it.

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Posted by: HelenaeSara.1562

HelenaeSara.1562

This is a real deal breaker for me.

I won’t spend another dime at the gem store.

Maybe that is the only way you will hear our voices.

Deliver what we paid for. Be Fair. Be upfront. Do what you promised.

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Posted by: Manuhell.2759

Manuhell.2759

This was a good call. The issues with the foundation of the game needs to be addressed before new content. This is what we have all been asking for and it is basic common sense that the core game needs to be right before anything else people…jump back and let them breathe. We can revisit legendaries later.

Pulling people from the expansion team (or the gem store one, if it is assets they lack) would achieve the same result. While giving us what we were actually supposed to get.
Oh, of course, it means that instead of working toward new sources of money they actually give us things we already paid for. Obviously that’s not what they are going to do.

Unless they come out with some blogpost at the start of April like “we hired an army of chronomancers and here are all the new legendaries, also we conquered the world and we have a portal to Tyria in our offices”, well, they ruined any credibility they had left. People will have no reason to buy a new expansion after seeing how they managed the first one.

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Posted by: Slade.2587

Slade.2587

Just why…. I get wanting to move faster on other things, but this was part of what we paid for…. apparently that doesn’t mean too much anymore.

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Posted by: YaYa.5879

YaYa.5879

HAHAHAHA DAT COMPANY THO !
Anet is kind of like a little kid with ADD. It has a lot of ideas, and a wonderfull imagination. BUT kitten , the execution, the focus?
“We have an idea fo this! now this ! oh but we’ve given up on this, and that will come in 6 months”.

My god, like, since HOT (6 months now), the only content you have been releasing is raids. And raids is for a marginal part of the population (thanks to a lack of lfg, only hardcore raid guild can truly enjoy it, other wise it’s just waiting and begging the gods for people to join).

I mean no new raids, still no wvw revamp.

And now one of the new features announce in hot is abandoned?

God bless you guys hahaha !

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Posted by: KingofRoses.1726

KingofRoses.1726

Man i’m so frustrated I logged in to post my first ever forum comment on this game I played practically since launch.

+1 For the honesty, i’d like to see that more often. But that’s honestly not going to fix this problem. Vote with your wallet folks If they can’t take 5or 6 devs off the next xpac group (that has like 70 devs dedicated to it?!?!) to finish the half baked expansion already released, don’t buy into this smoke field about needing to focus on living story!! The legendaries are part of a ALREADY RELEASED expansion that will never be finished, how can you expect us to trust you when the next one is released?? Its crazy and unacceptable. No fractal leaderboards, no new legendaries, no legendary back pack for pve, fractals revamped for what the 4th time?? then on the AMA on reddit the dev admitted they’ll be revamped all over again because it was horribly rushed and done, still no new content for fractals in over 1 year, raids aren’t finished and have also only 6 developers on it. Just ridiculous.

Don’t take the LS hook line and sinker, there’s no good reason to do this, they could easily take 5-6 off their xpac team to speed through these legendaries.

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Posted by: JayMack.8295

JayMack.8295

Fair enough making this decision but I still feel that you could be a bit clearer with us, Mo.

I appreciate that creating the legendary journey for each weapon isn’t a simple case of designing a precursor and then just applying it and bang, it’s done, but from our perspective it’s taken that team from November at the latest until the Spring update to release ONE legendary weapon. Why is this the case?

Are the tools the team have available to them that complicated to use that it takes a lot of time to create the steps? Is it designing the steps themselves that takes time? If it’s the tools, will they be redesigned to make it easier for them to develop the journey quicker?

‘Suspended indefinitely’ is also a bit ambiguous. Will that team continue crating legendary weapons in the future after a certain amount of living world content has been produced? Or are we just abandoning the HoT legendaries now altogether?

Again, I appreciate the candidness, but from all we know right now, it seems odd that it took this long to release one weapon with a team dedicated to it.

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Posted by: Ashen.2907

Ashen.2907

Thank you for the information. This is a nice change of pace. Very much appreciated.

I do wonder how much of an impact six people reassigned back to the core content team will make? Six people that, apparently, could not produce more than four weapons over the course of more than a year, that represent a 5% increase in the size of the content team, will have how much of an impact? Even if they get up to speed instantly, a content release schedule that was at something like nine months seems unlikely to be quicker by more than a couple of weeks. In all reality a five percent increase in staff fora given team or project is unlikely to reduce production time by a full five percent. I would be surprised to see more than a two percent yield.

Are you really cancelling an element upon which the expansion was sold in order to cut something like 6 days off of a nine month release schedule?

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Posted by: psy.5437

psy.5437

You know considering how long I have played GW1 and GW2 I should care more but honestly at this point I just don’t give a kitten anymore.

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Posted by: Sindex.9520

Sindex.9520

It’s not surprising this happen. However I am surprised it took this long to admit to this problem. The legendary journey and fractal leader-boards have been in development since 2013. They canceled fractal leaderboards about a month ago. The poor state of how copy and pasted the legendary journey is unbelievable. With a pure lack of imagination when it first came out. Sure the scavenger hunt portions are somewhat interesting. However ever since they introduced ascended gear it like they been circling their wagons, and using archaic backwards thinking MMO dogma to keep people in game. That has to stop now. If you are willing to bring up that joke of a manifesto from 2010 Mike. Then I suggest you start being forward thinkers of the MMO industry like you advertised you would be.

Here is another idea: The next time you tell us you want to release an expansion by it’s deadline and it’s not finished. Delay it. Simple. Don’t rush it out the door like you admitted with both core GW2 and HoT. Stop treating your game like it’s some early access game on steam.

By the way I will give Mike this: At least he is being honest. The unfortunate thing about Colin is that he was skirting us around with “nothing is off the table” PR talking point. It’s better to have this type of transparency and dead on information about content in development I’m tried of being left in the dark for so many years on these problems. Only to find out 2-4 years latter it’s been canned for now.

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Posted by: Gene Archer.8560

Gene Archer.8560

Oh hey, look. Yet another thing in GW2 that’s on indefinite suspension, just like SAB.

I’ll have to make a list of dates so I can properly send out anniversarry cupcakes for every year you guys fail to impliment the things you claim you’ll do.

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Posted by: Bazza.1735

Bazza.1735

Here is an idea. Stop treating us like a bunch of cash cows milking us for all we have, and move some of the 70 so people you have working on the next xpac to other areas and deliver what was promised.

This is only going to damage your reputation for the future. You want people to pre-order the next xpac? Treat us with some respect and deliver what was promised.

I’d even go as far as putting the next xpac on halt and just moving all 70 of them onto other teams to fix this massive mess. Lol j/k $$$$$$$$$$

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Posted by: Kamara.4187

Kamara.4187

This was a good call. The issues with the foundation of the game needs to be addressed before new content. This is what we have all been asking for and it is basic common sense that the core game needs to be right before anything else people…jump back and let them breathe. We can revisit legendaries later.

Pulling people from the expansion team (or the gem store one, if it is assets they lack) would achieve the same result. While giving us what we were actually supposed to get.
Oh, of course, it means that instead of working toward new sources of money they actually give us things we already paid for. Obviously that’s not what they are going to do.

Unless they come out with some blogpost at the start of April like “we hired an army of chronomancers and here are all the new legendaries, also we conquered the world and we have a portal to Tyria in our offices”, well, they ruined any credibility they had left. People will have no reason to buy a new expansion after seeing how they managed the first one.

I disagree. All of this mess came about because of lack of communication between the player base and the game godz. This is not the first time a game went off track because of bad calls made in the boardroom that forgot what group actually pays the bills.

Take it as a positive sign that things are changing.

Also I get why a community turns rabid over a lack of communication + game changes. I’ve lived this before. However its time to pull back so this bridge between the community and Anet can mend.

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Posted by: Glott.7239

Glott.7239

even though i personally would prefer LS3 over new legendary’s, at the moment, i hope you know that this decision builds up a big trust issue. who’s to say you not coming out in 2-3 month saying: “new fractals?… naaaa”, “WvW overhaul?… better not”,“living story?… i think our time is better spent designing gilders, to sell on the gemstore”.

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Posted by: Khyan.7039

Khyan.7039

SAB will be the next victim.

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Posted by: cranos.5913

cranos.5913

Fair enough making this decision but I still feel that you could be a bit clearer with us, Mo.

I appreciate that creating the legendary journey for each weapon isn’t a simple case of designing a precursor and then just applying it and bang, it’s done, but from our perspective it’s taken that team from November at the latest until the Spring update to release ONE legendary weapon. Why is this the case?

Are the tools the team have available to them that complicated to use that it takes a lot of time to create the steps? Is it designing the steps themselves that takes time? If it’s the tools, will they be redesigned to make it easier for them to develop the journey quicker?

‘Suspended indefinitely’ is also a bit ambiguous. Will that team continue crating legendary weapons in the future after a certain amount of living world content has been produced? Or are we just abandoning the HoT legendaries now altogether?

Again, I appreciate the candidness, but from all we know right now, it seems odd that it took this long to release one weapon with a team dedicated to it.

Kinda have to agree with this. My assumption is that they’re gonna drop it entirely. I highly doubt it’s the skins itself that caused the issue, especially if you look at the amount of black lion skins they can produce. So then the question is, why not add the precursors as drops and revisit the treasure hunt later? Probably because there is no “later”.

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Posted by: jweez.7214

jweez.7214

SAB will be the next victim.

Nah. That will come out just to shut people up about this.

If I’m wrong the kitten storm that will be released will be ridicoulous.

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Posted by: nova.4123

nova.4123

How can you get a refund for HoT, for this false advertisement and not even releasing half the content promised with the expansion. Just sloppy work i don’t know why I keep trusting anet with there SOONTM or ITSONTHETABLE, when this crap happens EVERY time.

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Posted by: Gregori.5807

Gregori.5807

M-m-m-manifesto?? I don’t care one whit about the legendaries, what I heard was “manifesto.” As in you are steering the boat in the general direction of the Manifesto??

I have one thing to say to this:

BOOYAH! and Thank you!

~~On Blackgate since Beta~~
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Posted by: MadVisions.4529

MadVisions.4529

I feel this is another sad day for this game.
You promise as a full 2nd set of legendaries, advertise with them to bait people who love legendaries into buying the xpack..and now you don’t deliver…after you have taken their money.
I have no words for this that would actually get through the “kitten” filter.

No legendaries, yet you manage to release Black Lion Skins and Gliders almost weekly.
It’s clear that these generate easy cash, and that cash is becoming more and more important to ArenaNet.

Same with HoT.
The expansion is already rushed, systems are bugged or half in place, story is rushed out with gaps, we got 4 maps…we had to pay the full price for this…and instead of giving priority to fixing the problems we have now, you almost proudly tell us the amount of devs you have working on the “next expansion”.

And then I am not even mentioning actually actively destroying content.
Destroying dungeons, killing of WvW, PvP is still a nightmare as well…

Wake up Anet.
If you guys are going for the cashgrab nobody will be around to actually play the next expansion.
Such a different company since Guild Wars 1, even so much change since the start of GW2, or even pré HoT…
What happened to you people…

This.
Game is NCSoft’s.

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Posted by: Critical Lag.9075

Critical Lag.9075

This is the most dissapointing news I’ve read since I started playing. Legendaries were one of the most anticipated things by me from expac and now you just throw them away.

Just scrap the kittening collection idea, it seems like it takes too much time and those collections are often bugged anyway.. Make nice legendaries and put precursors as RNG drops and make them ‘craftable’ in Mystic Forge like all gen 1 precursors..

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Posted by: nova.4123

nova.4123

All anet does now is mild us for money, nickle and dime left and right. Taking rewards that you should get ingame, Soul river glider and sabatha mini come to mind, and putting them in the gem store. Making us pay for the ability to glide, and then pay for a glider? How about put the glider as a ingame reward since we already payed for gliding once. This rampant exploitative gem store business was fine when it was just buy the core game, but now they wanna but gem store nickle and dime you bullcrap when you have to buy an expansion on top of it. They have released way more outfits in the gemstore since launch of HoT, than armor in the expansion we payed FULL PRICE OF THE GAME FOR. Just complete disconnect with there community killing off the dungeon community, ruining fractals I hope this april patch is HUGE and has living world season 3 in it or else this game is dead, a year long content drought pre xpac then an overprice short xpac, just to go right back into another content drought? Do you how it makes the community feel when bugs go unfixed for months and in some cases YEARS, but still a new outfit and black loin skin every few weeks?

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Posted by: Mike O Brien

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Mike O Brien

President -- ArenaNet

Thanks for all the comments. I know there’s nothing I’m going to say that will make you feel better, but I’ll share some final thoughts for the night.

I said three weeks ago I’d focus on sustainability and quality. I want to reiterate the part about sustainability. Be angry about legendary weapons, sure, but how about the recent drought of content? That kind of thing happens when we spread ourselves too thin, and when we let the content development pipeline empty out so we can fight fires. What I think we actually owe you is sustainable, predictable, high-quality content. I’m making a decision that’s painful in the short-term so we can position ourselves to deliver that.

Consider this… HoT currently has: 3 new maps (which are still buggy looking at DS) which are grindy as hell, Elite Specs which are heavy powercreep (pay to win in PvP…), a Story which is short but at least good (if you ignore the myriad of bugs f.e. in the Mordi battle), Guild halls, 2 Raids with 5 1/2 bosses, a new PvP map (which is quite unbalanced) and now only 4 legy weaps (3/4 being rarely used thanks to being underpowered or buggy)… That’s it?

I previously addressed the “half an expansion” thing, and I can point you to pages like this one and this one (https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_2:_Heart_of_Thorns), but that doesn’t matter because it’s just arguing. My job is to entertain you, not to argue with you.

I strongly believe that we will in fact entertain you. We’re a team of people who love the game that you love, and are working on things we’re confident you’ll love. But I’m not here to convince you of that, and I wouldn’t expect you to take my word for it. You can make that judgment in April, and each subsequent time we ship. I will work to make you happy, and I’ll do it by making you happy with what we ship, not with what we promise to ship.

Mo

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Posted by: Nury.3062

Nury.3062

So…i am stuck with Kudzu as my only legendary longbow option…i was hoping…..you know (sobbing) …. for a more….manly legendary….longbow….

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Posted by: Khyan.7039

Khyan.7039

SAB will be the next victim.

Nah. That will come out just to shut people up about this.

If I’m wrong the kitten storm that will be released will be ridicoulous.

If it ever happens, it’s Guild Wars 2 end.

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Posted by: Rayleigh.4082

Rayleigh.4082

It’s time for some serious damage control. You need to show your player base that we are valued and important to you and not just the money. Businesses have costs and we all have to make do with the funding we have but it’s very clear that you guys do have the resources but are allocating them in the wrong places and doing so inefficiently. Mo you’re the new face of Anet and you’ve inherited a crap ton of broken things but instead of instilling confidence you’re essentially telling us you’re not the right man for the job. I and all these others may be ultimately inconsequential to you but there’s a lot of things that look shady here with your commendably transparent announcement. Talk about trade-offs then maybe move over some resources from the gem store weapons to your legendary weapon sector (which obviously doesn’t exist in this moment in time). You could have even gone as far getting some feedback from the community so we could tell you what we want to see moving forward before making this decision. Get us involved we are the heart of what makes the game what it is, without us you don’t have a game, you have barren lands you have, for want of a better word…nothing.

Some suggestions for damage control:

Scrap the journey/collection part and revert back to giving us the legendary skins how we originally acquired them on release. Skins aren’t hard to make as is made very clear with your gemstone weapon onslaught.

Buff dungeon rewards so they’re not left barren and unused.

Improve fractals, introduce the leaderboards, improve the drops.

PvP can’t afford to have a meta shift every so often it needs to be balanced and stable all classes need to be viable and left up to player skill to dictate the flow of a game.
There are some ridiculous cash prizes up for grabs in the ESL but how many actually tune in to watch them?

If you go back to release a lot of the legendary skins were not as cool as the greatswords but the team eventually went back and fine tuned them/made them flashier. Just deliver the skins, any skin and you can fine tune them after they don’t have to be amazing just deliver something.

We want the game to succeed we aren’t brainless zombies that don’t know what we’re talking about so probably best to not treat us as such.

Sad thing is I wholeheartedly defend this game and am the first to jump at anyone who tries to say it’s bad or dying, as a long time fan I guess all I can say of significance is get your kitten together and make this game be what it is destined to be, I.e. awesome.

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Posted by: foxcat.4096

foxcat.4096

Hard decision but probably the correct one it seems the game is getting more of a clear direction since Collin has left. Legendary are cool but not substitute to actual content LS3 is way more important.I feel the expansion in general was a massive learning experience for anet it kinda seems like they said this sounds cool lets do it for a lot of things and ended up biting off more than they could chew.

Just need to go back to the basics and keep producing the sort of content that made us love this game and i will be happy also maintain the communication with the player base!

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Posted by: Dashingsteel.3410

Dashingsteel.3410

If you are spread too thin it is time to drop the next expansion idea.

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Posted by: MashMash.1645

MashMash.1645

Two things:

1) Can we can have an assurance that the remaining Legendaries will not be locked behind Expansion #2.

2) Other gametypes such as raids (less players do these than do Legendary weapons) and gemstore resources (we have enough stuff in the shop!) should be scaled back / suspended until all of HoT’s promised and advertised content can be implemented, and LS3 can be done properly.

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Posted by: Anka.5086

Anka.5086

Thank you for the transparency. I would have liked to see more legendary weapons, the first 3 HoT legendary weapons looks very good. Staff animation is well designed. I was looking forward to new greatsword and sword legendary weapon, and maybe craft them if they looked any better than the old legendary versions. But unlike most people on this thread I find legendary weapons waste of resources. Legendary armor on the other hand is something I’m definitely looking forward to craft. I’m relieved to find out that you’re still committed to delivering it.

But just to make it clear, even though I’m not a big fan of legendary weapons this is still disappointing. And yes, most GW2 players are in the same group as me not bothered by legendary weapons. Nevertheless, this announcement left very bad impression on us about your trust worthiness. As a company you advertised legendary weapons being big part of HoT. And you promised you will deliver all land based legendary weapons. When you fail to deliver on your promise people will start questioning your trustworthiness. Remember, this is coming from a person who always had the in-game gold and resources to craft number of legendary weapons but considered them waste of resources and not very useful.

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Posted by: Minx.7521

Minx.7521

Oh, and, once again, you have great devs working there, it’s just too bad they can’t just design what THEY want or what the PLAYERS want, they have to listen to management. Don’t drag devs into the bad decisions management is making.

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Posted by: nova.4123

nova.4123

Legendarys where the only real endgame for like 3 years in pve, what now? theres no gear grind, what do i work towards now?

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Posted by: That Other Guy.7351

That Other Guy.7351

I understand that they feel it turned out to be a bad idea ultimately, but I feel they should still finish the set (hire more people if they have to) and just not do it again if it’s so problematic. We were promised a full set and some of the current legendaries aren’t even appealing for a lot of people so it would be best if they had a choice between 2 legendaries for each.

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Posted by: That Other Guy.7351

That Other Guy.7351

I personally was really looking forward to the hammer legendary as I use hammer on all 4 professions that can and I don’t care for Juggernaut. I decided to start making Bolt today, but even that’s somewhat a disappointment for the simple fact that tempest didn’t get sword like it should have and everyone wanted. Some leap finishers would have gone great with the aura-focused elite spec.

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Posted by: Dinks.2478

Dinks.2478

Thanks for all the comments. I know there’s nothing I’m going to say that will make you feel better, but I’ll share some final thoughts for the night.

I said three weeks ago I’d focus on sustainability and quality. I want to reiterate the part about sustainability. Be angry about legendary weapons, sure, but how about the recent drought of content? That kind of thing happens when we spread ourselves too thin, and when we let the content development pipeline empty out so we can fight fires. What I think we actually owe you is sustainable, predictable, high-quality content. I’m making a decision that’s painful in the short-term so we can position ourselves to deliver that.

Consider this… HoT currently has: 3 new maps (which are still buggy looking at DS) which are grindy as hell, Elite Specs which are heavy powercreep (pay to win in PvP…), a Story which is short but at least good (if you ignore the myriad of bugs f.e. in the Mordi battle), Guild halls, 2 Raids with 5 1/2 bosses, a new PvP map (which is quite unbalanced) and now only 4 legy weaps (3/4 being rarely used thanks to being underpowered or buggy)… That’s it?

I previously addressed the “half an expansion” thing, and I can point you to pages like this one and this one (https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_2:_Heart_of_Thorns), but that doesn’t matter because it’s just arguing. My job is to entertain you, not to argue with you.

I strongly believe that we will in fact entertain you. We’re a team of people who love the game that you love, and are working on things we’re confident you’ll love. But I’m not here to convince you of that, and I wouldn’t expect you to take my word for it. You can make that judgment in April, and each subsequent time we ship. I will work to make you happy, and I’ll do it by making you happy with what we ship, not with what we promise to ship.

Mo

Honestly none of us are here to argue with you, we’re also here to be entertained. But you haven’t addressed any of the real concerns here. We’re not being entertained because we’re still missing features we paid for. And now we’re being told some of them aren’t coming. So do what you want, and make the next expansion but don’t be surprised if nobody buys it because we’ve already put our faith in HoT and fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. So once again if you think putting off already bought content because you can’t pull people off the next expansion then don’t be surprised when it doesn’t sell well.

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Posted by: MashMash.1645

MashMash.1645

If you are spread to thin it is time to drop the next expansion idea.

They should not be working on a new expansion when they still haven’t finished the current one.

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Posted by: infinityandbeyond.9652

infinityandbeyond.9652

Thanks for all the comments. I know there’s nothing I’m going to say that will make you feel better, but I’ll share some final thoughts for the night.

I said three weeks ago I’d focus on sustainability and quality. I want to reiterate the part about sustainability. Be angry about legendary weapons, sure, but how about the recent drought of content? That kind of thing happens when we spread ourselves too thin, and when we let the content development pipeline empty out so we can fight fires. What I think we actually owe you is sustainable, predictable, high-quality content. I’m making a decision that’s painful in the short-term so we can position ourselves to deliver that.

Consider this… HoT currently has: 3 new maps (which are still buggy looking at DS) which are grindy as hell, Elite Specs which are heavy powercreep (pay to win in PvP…), a Story which is short but at least good (if you ignore the myriad of bugs f.e. in the Mordi battle), Guild halls, 2 Raids with 5 1/2 bosses, a new PvP map (which is quite unbalanced) and now only 4 legy weaps (3/4 being rarely used thanks to being underpowered or buggy)… That’s it?

I previously addressed the “half an expansion” thing, and I can point you to pages like this one and this one (https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_2:_Heart_of_Thorns), but that doesn’t matter because it’s just arguing. My job is to entertain you, not to argue with you.

I strongly believe that we will in fact entertain you. We’re a team of people who love the game that you love, and are working on things we’re confident you’ll love. But I’m not here to convince you of that, and I wouldn’t expect you to take my word for it. You can make that judgment in April, and each subsequent time we ship. I will work to make you happy, and I’ll do it by making you happy with what we ship, not with what we promise to ship.

Mo

Mo, I feel a meme coming on right now…. Here it is !

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Posted by: Minx.7521

Minx.7521

Thank you for the transparency. I would have liked to see more legendary weapons, the first 3 HoT legendary weapons looks very good. Staff animation is well designed. I was looking forward to new greatsword and sword legendary weapon, and maybe craft them if they looked any better than the old legendary versions. But unlike most people on this thread I find legendary weapons waste of resources. Legendary armor on the other hand is something I’m definitely looking forward to craft. I’m relieved to find out that you’re still committed to delivering it.

But just to make it clear, even though I’m not a big fan of legendary weapons this is still disappointing. And yes, most GW2 players are in the same group as me not bothered by legendary weapons. Nevertheless, this announcement left very bad impression on us about your trust worthiness. As a company you advertised legendary weapons being big part of HoT. And you promised you will deliver all land based legendary weapons. When you fail to deliver on your promise people will start questioning your trustworthiness. Remember, this is coming from a person who always had the in-game gold and resources to craft number of legendary weapons but considered them waste of resources and not very useful.

Thank you for posting this because the issue here really is about how they run their business.

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Posted by: Minx.7521

Minx.7521

Thanks for all the comments. I know there’s nothing I’m going to say that will make you feel better, but I’ll share some final thoughts for the night.

I said three weeks ago I’d focus on sustainability and quality. I want to reiterate the part about sustainability. Be angry about legendary weapons, sure, but how about the recent drought of content? That kind of thing happens when we spread ourselves too thin, and when we let the content development pipeline empty out so we can fight fires. What I think we actually owe you is sustainable, predictable, high-quality content. I’m making a decision that’s painful in the short-term so we can position ourselves to deliver that.

Consider this… HoT currently has: 3 new maps (which are still buggy looking at DS) which are grindy as hell, Elite Specs which are heavy powercreep (pay to win in PvP…), a Story which is short but at least good (if you ignore the myriad of bugs f.e. in the Mordi battle), Guild halls, 2 Raids with 5 1/2 bosses, a new PvP map (which is quite unbalanced) and now only 4 legy weaps (3/4 being rarely used thanks to being underpowered or buggy)… That’s it?

I previously addressed the “half an expansion” thing, and I can point you to pages like this one and this one (https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_2:_Heart_of_Thorns), but that doesn’t matter because it’s just arguing. My job is to entertain you, not to argue with you.

I strongly believe that we will in fact entertain you. We’re a team of people who love the game that you love, and are working on things we’re confident you’ll love. But I’m not here to convince you of that, and I wouldn’t expect you to take my word for it. You can make that judgment in April, and each subsequent time we ship. I will work to make you happy, and I’ll do it by making you happy with what we ship, not with what we promise to ship.

Mo

Mo, I feel a meme coming on right now…. Here it is !

LOL I am super entertained by the meme XD Still want a compensation for false-promises, but am entertained ^.^

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Posted by: Rayleigh.4082

Rayleigh.4082

Thanks for all the comments. I know there’s nothing I’m going to say that will make you feel better, but I’ll share some final thoughts for the night.

I said three weeks ago I’d focus on sustainability and quality. I want to reiterate the part about sustainability. Be angry about legendary weapons, sure, but how about the recent drought of content? That kind of thing happens when we spread ourselves too thin, and when we let the content development pipeline empty out so we can fight fires. What I think we actually owe you is sustainable, predictable, high-quality content. I’m making a decision that’s painful in the short-term so we can position ourselves to deliver that.

Consider this… HoT currently has: 3 new maps (which are still buggy looking at DS) which are grindy as hell, Elite Specs which are heavy powercreep (pay to win in PvP…), a Story which is short but at least good (if you ignore the myriad of bugs f.e. in the Mordi battle), Guild halls, 2 Raids with 5 1/2 bosses, a new PvP map (which is quite unbalanced) and now only 4 legy weaps (3/4 being rarely used thanks to being underpowered or buggy)… That’s it?

I previously addressed the “half an expansion” thing, and I can point you to pages like this one and this one (https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_2:_Heart_of_Thorns), but that doesn’t matter because it’s just arguing. My job is to entertain you, not to argue with you.

I strongly believe that we will in fact entertain you. We’re a team of people who love the game that you love, and are working on things we’re confident you’ll love. But I’m not here to convince you of that, and I wouldn’t expect you to take my word for it. You can make that judgment in April, and each subsequent time we ship. I will work to make you happy, and I’ll do it by making you happy with what we ship, not with what we promise to ship.

Mo

I can’t wait to see what will come in April, I sincerely hope it makes us forget all about the disappointment that you brought us today. Good luck, I may be a salty sailor but I wish you all the best.

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Posted by: Kamara.4187

Kamara.4187

M.O. Go have dinner with your family or something. It will all still be here tomorrow. I’ve seen what you all have done to try to turn things around. You all did give us gliding in the core game (TY BTW). You have been biting the bullet and addressing the communication issue more. It will take some time for trust to mend but you all are on the right track.