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Posted by: Remus.7312

Remus.7312

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5PFGtZZkt8&feature=youtu.be
The recording program I use is free, so the quality of the video isn’t too great.

I have been testing this build for the past two weeks and have found it to be very powerful. The idea is to get a good balance between all stats. Its survival is great and all the stealth skills make it even better. The direct damage and condition damage is also pretty good. The damage is more about pressure than bursting, but you can pull off big burst.

Build:
Guild wars 2 build craft:
http://tinyurl.com/bhzlssc
Guild head:
http://tinyurl.com/amtvn9b

So I was hoping that you guys had some suggestions. This is an experimental build and I’d say its still in beta. I am open to changing some gear and maybe even my traits…. a little :P

Do you guys think I would be better off using full rampagers gear in the armor slots, or soldiers gear?

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Posted by: Remus.7312

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So no one is open to a productive discussion? Makes sense, you all probably come to the forums to QQ…

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Posted by: Nausicca.6038

Nausicca.6038

Hi Remus,

Your build seems to work very well. So sad that your video resolution is so low :s
I’m not into theorycrafting much so I won’t be able to say what you have to improve or not. I think you’re dealin 1v x very well, and that’s the most important point for me.

I want to see more videos now

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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

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Wow, I feel like I just watched a slideshow…

At any rate, you’ve got 2 on-crit sigils in the same weaponset. This isn’t very efficient, especially when one of them is generosity, and having that go off properly is really important for condition removal in a build like this. I’d replace the bleeding one with possibly bleed on weapon swap, or something else on weapon swap.

I’m not really sure that veil fits your playstyle very well. Grimms uses veil to great effect, but he plays much more defensively and evasively with bursts of offense, while you play a bit more like a shatter mesmer, and veil doesn’t fit that quite as well. You might want to reconsider that one.

I’m confused as to why you took 2 water runes. They don’t seem to serve a purpose at all.

You’re not using ascended accessories. As much as it would be nice, you should probably update that build to have exotic accessories.

You’re using a sword, so drop desperate decoy and take blade training. The cooldown on blurred frenzy provides far more defense than an uncontrollable stealthing trait ever can.

I’m unconvinced that the torch is worth it for you. The prestige is very nice, but the phantasm is really useless. To capitalize on sharper images, you might want to take the pistol, which also provides some more cc. You could try taking a focus as well, but without the focus trait, it loses a lot of viability. OH sword is also an option, and actually synergizes tremendously with blade training, but it has less bleeding potential from sharper images.

Edit: Just watched some more of the video. When running away, switch to staff, target someone chasing you, and use phase retreat.
Edit 2: Before using MI, switch to sword, otherwise (as happened) you’ll reveal yourself half the time because of the stupid winds of chaos bouncing around.
Edit 3: 7:26. Isn’t it lovely when illusionary leap works?
Edit 4: You have trouble with conditions sometimes, since you don’t have a super reliable method of removal. Consider using the -40% duration food as a large chunk of innate condition defense.

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Posted by: Remus.7312

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@Pyroatheist.9031
I have actually changed my swords sigil to Superior sigil of Energy.
I used to run a full zerker shatter build and that’s where I fell in love with the sigil of generosity ^^

Veil is quite new for me, like I said I used to rukittenerker shatter set up and mirror images was in its place. Do you think it would be better if I use a cond removal utility there, like null field?

Well, the build creator is a bit buggy but 2 water runes give 15% boon duration that + the 15% from the monk runes and the 20% from traits gives a whole 50% boon duration. I am still not sure if it is really optimal, but it certainly helps.

Oh ye, I made that build in the editer as what I was aiming to get. I was going to put what I had on in the video but the footage I recorded for that didn’t work for some reason. In my accessory slots I have the Ancient Karka Shell and an exotic rampages stat accessory in the other I think.
Tbh it is going to take me a really long time to get the ascended accessories since my guild is too small to do the missions and I can’t do my dailies all the time.

Mmm I think I will try swapping my traits to get blade training.

When I was full zerkers I used it and I was using duel swords. I am definatly more practiced with OH sword, but I have really fallen in love with The Prestige and I am not sure if I’d be able to take on multiple opponents at once if I drop both torch and veil, it’s amazing what 3 seconds of stealth can do for you.

I may also try a focus and swap out my rampages pieces of armour for soldiers gear and try get in some extra retaliation damage.

Oh I do that thing with phase retreat all the time, it was good before I used this build… But now, with20% shorter staff CDs it’s amazing lol

Well, I decided to try make my own build like this purely because I wanted a change from my old GC shatter build. So if you have a suggestion on another build, even non shatter, I’d be up for trying it.

I have been using the +36% cond duration food to try and buff my confusion damage. Though I do struggle with condition builds, today a dueled a cond engi that had 1555 cond damage and could buff it up to 1800 with might >.> and it was really the hardest fight i have ever had. I can say from those fights with him that -40% cond duration would really help… aaaand sigil of generosity really didn’t :P

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Posted by: Rodigee.7139

Rodigee.7139

(Caveat: I didn’t watch your video. You may have answered some of my questions there)

I have been working on a very similar build because I also enjoy 1vX in WvW. A hybrid mesmer with decent confusion damage works great for that playstyle. This is mine:

http://tinyurl.com/bh3lpxq

Despite different gear, our overall stats are about the same. We differ most in some trait choices and our rune sets, so I’ll ask about those. Why do you use Desperate Decoy instead of Blade Training? Why do you use that assortment of runes?

EDIT: Aaaaand you answered my questions while I was writing this post.

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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

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It’s still a little unclear to me why you are stacking boon duration. I’m not sure it particularly benefits this build much.

As far as condition duration food goes, I guarantee it would help tremendously, especially in a fight like against that engie. The -40% condition duration produces an approximate condition damage reduction of 50% or higher. Any condition lasting less than about 1.8 seconds will do 0 damage, and the damage of other conditions is almost always cut in half. That’s like having protection permanently, except even more.

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Posted by: Remus.7312

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@Rodigee.7139 Oh I never thought about using knight’s gear, I may try a bit of knight’s mixed with rabid.
Well I thought Desperate Decoy was better at the time, I suppose not, it has saved me a few times though.
@Pyroatheist.9031 I thought it would buff my staff a bit, thought it would go with my idea of balancing survival and damage since there are boons that compliment both sides, but I suppose it isn’t as effective as it would be with a build that concentrates on boon stacking.
I will defiantly give the -40% condition duration food a go.

edit: What do you think about this build http://tinyurl.com/bvevwoo
edit: ok I am not sure if i can try knights and rabid gear, cant afford to spend so much money :<

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Posted by: Alchemist.3692

Alchemist.3692

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5PFGtZZkt8&feature=youtu.be
The recording program I use is free, so the quality of the video isn’t too great.

I have been testing this build for the past two weeks and have found it to be very powerful. The idea is to get a good balance between all stats. Its survival is great and all the stealth skills make it even better. The direct damage and condition damage is also pretty good. The damage is more about pressure than bursting, but you can pull off big burst.

Build:
Guild wars 2 build craft:
http://tinyurl.com/bhzlssc
Guild head:
http://tinyurl.com/amtvn9b

So I was hoping that you guys had some suggestions. This is an experimental build and I’d say its still in beta. I am open to changing some gear and maybe even my traits…. a little :P

Do you guys think I would be better off using full rampagers gear in the armor slots, or soldiers gear?

Looks like a good build. I have something similar except I spent 20 in inspiration vs chaos, and I use a focus instead of torch. I don’t have problems with dodging and evading direct damage, but conditions are usually what cause trouble for me which is why I went with inspiration.

Also I use zerker equip… I don’t see a point in the extra 48 condition dmg you get from the two rampager pieces. It doesnt siginificantly impact your condition dmg really, and I’d rather invest those into toughness/vitality which really goes a long way.

Have you fought a condition necro with this build? I know you have some decent shatter strength but it looks like the main damage dealer are your confusion stacks which is why I’m not sure how it’d fair up against a condition necro, or a guardian who knows how to deal with conditions.

I wish we could maybe setup a friendly spar with people to test out our builds under certain conditions

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Posted by: Remus.7312

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@Alchemist-3692. Ye, conditions is really tough to deal with, but I’m going to try the -40% cond duration food and see how that goes.
I chose the rampages gear because it has precision as its main stat the power and cond is just a bonus. I want to get to 50% crit chance and then get as much of other stats as I can.

I haven’t been able to get many duels on in this match up (90% I ask say no)
Wish there was a duel function in this game, would be a lot easier to get guilders to do it for me :P

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Posted by: Sinaya.4201

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So no one is open to a productive discussion? Makes sense, you all probably come to the forums to QQ…

Really, this is how you try to encourage people to help you?

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Posted by: Godmoney.2048

Godmoney.2048

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5PFGtZZkt8&feature=youtu.be
The recording program I use is free, so the quality of the video isn’t too great.

I have been testing this build for the past two weeks and have found it to be very powerful. The idea is to get a good balance between all stats. Its survival is great and all the stealth skills make it even better. The direct damage and condition damage is also pretty good. The damage is more about pressure than bursting, but you can pull off big burst.

Build:
Guild wars 2 build craft:
http://tinyurl.com/bhzlssc
Guild head:
http://tinyurl.com/amtvn9b

So I was hoping that you guys had some suggestions. This is an experimental build and I’d say its still in beta. I am open to changing some gear and maybe even my traits…. a little :P

Do you guys think I would be better off using full rampagers gear in the armor slots, or soldiers gear?

Sorry, didn’t watch your vid or build yet. I just like that you’re using Celestial stuff. I have celestial on my “healway” guardian and enjoy the all stats. 1 piece of celestial is inconsequential but 5 pieces is noticeable for sure.

When you use 5 pieces of all stat jewels you’re actually getting a pretty good stat buff over other gear specs. I’ll watch you vid later tonight.