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Posted by: Reckless.6325

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Watchwork Mechanisms
Watchwork tech is the latest and greatest innovation in Tyria. Watchwork parts can be used in new crafting recipes or as currency in the Crown Pavilion to buy items like new rune and sigil recipes, Watchknight Tonics, or the new Sovereign Weapon Set. You might even find the recipe to assemble a Watchwork Portal Device, allowing you to create a personal portal!

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Posted by: Paprikaspice.8462

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Obviously, you’ll never be able to use it in PvP. You probably can’t use it in WvW either. This is insignificant in dungeon runs as Mesmers bring way more than just a portal. Also who knows how many people will be allowed to go through. It may just be the one.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

QQ, rage quit?

Should we even give a kitten ?

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Posted by: Winds.3087

Winds.3087

First we get watchwork portal, next time you’ll see magitech time warp and that’s all will ball up to the point where every dirty warrior strait outta cof will have their own personal kasmeerlike mini-me(999 gems) in pretty purple miniskirt doing warpjobs.
I’d say protest.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

You have to be realistic though. If everyone gets Watchknight portals, then that means Mesmers have access to two portals, or a portal and a free’d up utility slot ;D

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Posted by: DuckDuckBOOM.4097

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It’s not allowed in WvW or sPvP.

Also to be clear, the recipe is exotic and tradeable, but the output of said recipe is not.

The portal is a one-time use consumable that effectively allows you to use a skill that is similar to the mesmer’s portal. We recognize that it’s a very powerful item, so the recipe is quite rare and takes considerable resources to manufacture.

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Posted by: Levetty.1279

Levetty.1279

If everybody has access to Portals maybe this means they will have their swiftness and 25% movement signets removed and be as slow as us.

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Posted by: keenlam.4753

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No it means we will get reliable swiftness soon…
Ok, too optimistic, back to reality -_-

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Posted by: keenlam.4753

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It’s not allowed in WvW or sPvP.

Also to be clear, the recipe is exotic and tradeable, but the output of said recipe is not.

Relieved to hear this. I don’t think we mesmers have any problem with this addition.

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

LordByron.8369

-.- who the hell balance pve?
why do they want every party to be 5 warriors?

lets hope the cost is so high that is convenient to keep a mesmer…

P.S. also we know mesmer is more than portal…but yhe question is if people on lfg will realize it….

“We want to avoid “whack-a-mole” style balance.”
“Want to bring down cantrip Ele without affecting lesser used builds”
“We don’t make grindy games” ArenaNerf

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Posted by: Rainbow Sprint.3215

Rainbow Sprint.3215

If you think all us mesmers are is the portal skill…

I dont even use portal on my bar.

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Posted by: Ryuujin.8236

Ryuujin.8236

That’s absolutely fine by me.

If everyone else has portal, I can stop sacrificing my utility slot for the kitten thing, and anet can stop balancing the game on the basis that “mesmer’s have portal and timewarp, therefore cannot be buffed”

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Posted by: Kicast.1459

Kicast.1459

Perma stealth thieves with portal.
Again…wonderfull design arenanet. How on earth could they not foresee that this will be abused over and over.
No more golem required to take a castle now.
Just let a perma stealth thieve and wait 10 minutes for a insta ninja.

And while we are at it…please give to us all hundred blades and initiative please.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

ArmageddonAsh.6430

Perma stealth thieves with portal.
Again…wonderfull design arenanet. How on earth could they not foresee that this will be abused over and over.
No more golem required to take a castle now.
Just let a perma stealth thieve and wait 10 minutes for a insta ninja.

And while we are at it…please give to us all hundred blades and initiative please.

It cant be used in S/TPvP or WvW and has a 1 time use from what i have read…

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Posted by: Samug.6512

Samug.6512

I think ANet is trying to delete mesmers from game. They already nerfed us in several ways, now they are giving personal portal to everyone which will become usable for everyone and in spvp/wvw, then ANet will change thief’s Smoke Screen to work as veil. The last and deadly hit will be craftable consumamble potion that gives 10 seconds of quickness. This all is a kitten conspiracy.

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Posted by: AndrewSX.3794

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P.S. also we know mesmer is more than portal…but yhe question is if people on lfg will realize it….

You already know the answer.

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Posted by: Carighan.6758

Carighan.6758

I think ANet is trying to delete mesmers from game. They already nerfed us in several ways, now they are giving personal portal to everyone which will become usable for everyone and in spvp/wvw, then ANet will change thief’s Smoke Screen to work as veil. The last and deadly hit will be craftable consumamble potion that gives 10 seconds of quickness. This all is a kitten conspiracy.

/tinfoilhat

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Posted by: keenlam.4753

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Guys, before you get all jumped up, Dev has confirmed that it is not allowed in WvW and sPvP. I don’t see a problem having it in PvE.

It’s not allowed in WvW or sPvP.

Also to be clear, the recipe is exotic and tradeable, but the output of said recipe is not.

Check the original thread: https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/livingworld/jubilee/Personal-Portal/first if you want.

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Posted by: DrixTrix.7168

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You have to be realistic though. If everyone gets Watchknight portals, then that means Mesmers have access to two portals, or a portal and a free’d up utility slot ;D

not really its used on use so you have to get stacks of them and Anet said they are not going to be cheap as they know this is a powerful tool.

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Posted by: dani.1956

dani.1956

Nobody ask the right question for the devs ! The question is :
If this personal portal is implemented why mesmer got the skill in pve ? Should it be replace ? Hell yea !

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Posted by: DrixTrix.7168

DrixTrix.7168

Nobody ask the right question for the devs ! The question is :
If this personal portal is implemented why mesmer got the skill in pve ? Should it be replace ? Hell yea !

hell no.

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Posted by: Levitas.1953

Levitas.1953

If it works like portal, it means more people will be able to help each other with jumping puzzles and so on. We can do it without that item and this is nice for me, I wont even touch that new recipe.

Warriors will be so happy to skip stones without a mesmer!

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Posted by: Advent.6193

Advent.6193

Whatever – I’m one of the main people what wants some other poor Profession to suffer The Curse of Portal. C’mon, Devs – hand that to Necro and/or Engi already, it can actually be done in a logical way for either of ‘em. Let someone else go through it, for kitten’s sake. And then, I want bug-fixing and polish … make ScepTorch less of a bloody joke, amongst other logical fixes.

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Posted by: jportell.2197

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And kitten give mesmers better condition damage mitigation.

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Posted by: Dastion.3106

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Doesn’t it say ‘personal portal’? There’s nothing to indicate there that it will let’s groups teleport. There is already some limited functionality of this with portal guns.

Anyhow, all the whine is silly. It doesn’t replace Mesmer portal, especially if it’s personal only… Or have you forgotten that one of the draw backs of having portal is that you’re the one who has to actually get to the place to port people to?

We should get changes because the profession needs them, not because one of our more menial skills to use is being given PvE limited easier access. gg Mesmers indeed, listen to yourselves.

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Posted by: Silas Drake.8946

Silas Drake.8946

Hell I’d love that thing in wvw. Let some other joker portal. Free utility slot for me.

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Posted by: Winds.3087

Winds.3087

Anyhow, all the whine is silly. It doesn’t replace Mesmer portal, especially if it’s personal only… Or have you forgotten that one of the draw backs of having portal is that you’re the one who has to actually get to the place to port people to?

Stop denying my sacred right to whine, or I’ll bite you. Seriously. ]:E

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Posted by: Iavra.8510

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My main problem with this is following: Other classes (except necros) are actually better portal-users than mesmers because the got actual leaps and other skills which let them skip parts of jumping puzzles/other content.

Since mesmer in PvE is mainly taken because of Portal and Timewarp, this could very well lead to a decrease in mesmer popularity. And since we already are subpar in tPvP…we still have WvW, right? ^^

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Posted by: DuckDuckBOOM.4097

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It’s not allowed in WvW or sPvP.

Also to be clear, the recipe is exotic and tradeable, but the output of said recipe is not.

The portal is a one-time use consumable that effectively allows you to use a skill that is similar to the mesmer’s portal. We recognize that it’s a very powerful item, so the recipe is quite rare and takes considerable resources to manufacture.

GG Mesmers.

I should have been more clear with this. That’s a dev. The portal item will be expensive. Those jump skills wont matter when it comes to other people. There are items that give you jump shots >_>.

More clarification:

  • It’s an artificer recipe
  • You can trade the output of the recipe between characters on your account
  • The recipe makes a one-time use item, it does not unlock a new skill
  • This is not going to replace a mesmer in your party

One more dev quote.

From the blog

Watchwork Mechanisms
Watchwork tech is the latest and greatest innovation in Tyria. Watchwork parts can be used in new crafting recipes or as currency in the Crown Pavilion to buy items like new rune and sigil recipes, Watchknight Tonics, or the new Sovereign Weapon Set. You might even find the recipe to assemble a Watchwork Portal Device, allowing you to create a personal portal!

I’m pretty sure personal means only you use the portal.

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Posted by: Helios.3598

Helios.3598

They problem I have here is that this universal portal will start out restricted but eventually will make it more powerful. Doing so will reduce the uniqueness and value of the mesmer class. That and portal is one of the last remaining, viable mesmer traits. Homogenizing it is unfair. If they do that they should at least make confusion worth while again or make our portal (and timewarp for that matter) better.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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I think ANet is trying to delete mesmers from game. They already nerfed us in several ways, now they are giving personal portal to everyone which will become usable for everyone and in spvp/wvw, then ANet will change thief’s Smoke Screen to work as veil. The last and deadly hit will be craftable consumamble potion that gives 10 seconds of quickness. This all is a kitten conspiracy.

Can you not read? already been confirmed they do NOT work and i will repeat that they do NOT work in SPvP, TPvP or in WvW.

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Posted by: MMOJumper.8504

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Whatever – I’m one of the main people what wants some other poor Profession to suffer The Curse of Portal. C’mon, Devs – hand that to Necro and/or Engi already, it can actually be done in a logical way for either of ‘em. Let someone else go through it, for kitten’s sake. And then, I want bug-fixing and polish … make ScepTorch less of a bloody joke, amongst other logical fixes.

I’m with you 100%. I’ve long thought another class or two should have their own flavor of Portal. Necro’s with some kind of tunnel through the underworld, engineers with a portal device, or even some sort of “Smuggle” for thieves(though their Shadow Refuge is the traditional version of Smuggle from other games.

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Posted by: Iavra.8510

Iavra.8510

Thieves already got some kind of portal in Shadow Trap. It can’t be used for portal stomps but got a lot higher range, longer uptime and less CD. It could even be better for PvP node defense than Portal (must be placed in a way that no enemy will trigger it, though).

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Posted by: Samug.6512

Samug.6512

I think ANet is trying to delete mesmers from game. They already nerfed us in several ways, now they are giving personal portal to everyone which will become usable for everyone and in spvp/wvw, then ANet will change thief’s Smoke Screen to work as veil. The last and deadly hit will be craftable consumamble potion that gives 10 seconds of quickness. This all is a kitten conspiracy.

Can you not read? already been confirmed they do NOT work and i will repeat that they do NOT work in SPvP, TPvP or in WvW.

You are one of Them, aren’t you? You trying to make us believe that nothing is happening! Burn him!

But seriously. Mesmer’s portal will unique for our profession – we are and we will be the only ones, who can portal others. I’ve got a feeling that mesmer will get buff soon anyway.

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Posted by: keenlam.4753

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Apparently Anet listened to all the feedback about how people over relying on mesmers to do JPs in PvE and now they are giving them options to have their own portals. I’m totally cool with this.

We mesmers only need to make sure these personal portals don’t make it to WvW/sPvP in near or far future (at all costs?). There are already people demanding for it, things like “WvW/sPvP restriction release ticket”. Kitten NO.

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Posted by: selan.8354

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I think ANet is trying to delete mesmers from game. They already nerfed us in several ways, now they are giving personal portal to everyone which will become usable for everyone and in spvp/wvw, then ANet will change thief’s Smoke Screen to work as veil. The last and deadly hit will be craftable consumamble potion that gives 10 seconds of quickness. This all is a kitten conspiracy.

Can you not read? already been confirmed they do NOT work and i will repeat that they do NOT work in SPvP, TPvP or in WvW.

You are one of Them, aren’t you? You trying to make us believe that nothing is happening! Burn him!

But seriously. Mesmer’s portal will unique for our profession – we are and we will be the only ones, who can portal others. I’ve got a feeling that mesmer will get buff soon anyway.

lets hope you are right with the buff… anet has destroyed so many builds and nerfed us pretty bad whle overbuffing necros(that is now the new insane meta in wvw, next to guardian).

we need buffs and new skills…. right now anet doesnt give us the role they have promised us. the took confusion from us, we should have more cc, lockdowns, punishing, confusion and interrupts as this is what makes our class. i would love to see that. and please no more 1v1 stuff. i would rather have gw1 skills than mantras. actually in gw1 the mesmer was able to lock u down completely(a little too much maybe, but i’d like to see more of that in the future)

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

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well if it was a balanced item it would be usable in www.

Since its not i have some doubts.

“We want to avoid “whack-a-mole” style balance.”
“Want to bring down cantrip Ele without affecting lesser used builds”
“We don’t make grindy games” ArenaNerf

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Posted by: Thedarkdot.2793

Thedarkdot.2793

Pointless thread is pointless.

The item hasn’t even been released yet.

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Posted by: bastiondg.1058

bastiondg.1058

Shouldn’t this thread be in the dungeons section? Since a Mesmer brings a lot more to the table in other dungeons, not just CoF, as it is what this thread seems to be addressing in general.

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Posted by: Devildoc.6721

Devildoc.6721

Is it any surprise when the main devs in charge of balance play Warrior and Guardian almost exclusively?

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Posted by: Nikked.7365

Nikked.7365

Please let someone else have the portal! My mantra dungeon build takes a damage hit on some of these speed runs because of it.

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