Best Sigil for Shortbow? (pow/prec build)

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Posted by: JonasV.4209

JonasV.4209

I a trying to figure out the best shortbow sigil for my build so I though I would ask some advice. Currently I’m specced heavy pow/prec (47% crit presently) with some %crit pieces. My second weapon is longbow and for that I am using Rage since I can “usually” time the quickness proc and get off a complete Rapid Fire channel, which seems to work out pretty well for me. I have been using Rage also on the shortbow, but it seems a bit underwhelming.

Options I’m currently considering:
Fire for some AoE splash
Air for the DD nuke.
Ice for maintaining distance in PvP

Any advice?

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Posted by: Ramethzero.3785

Ramethzero.3785

I like bloodlost, or earth myself.

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Posted by: Tracker.6483

Tracker.6483

Fire is almost as much a DD nuke as Air but with AoE.

I highly recommend it for the best dps increase option on a high crit build for pvp.

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Posted by: bri.2359

bri.2359

I use a Superior Sigil of Perception in my longbow.
Kill 25 trash mobs and it stacks 250 precision, giving a nice crit chance increase.

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Posted by: JonasV.4209

JonasV.4209

Actually I’m more concerned with Explorables/WvW so I am not really considering the stacking Sigils since there is a high likelihood of being downed in that content, which resets the stack.

Does anyone happen to know how the Fire sigil scales compared to Air?

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Posted by: Tracker.6483

Tracker.6483

Full glass cannon I recall around 50 to 85 damage non crit difference. Very minimal considering well over 1k non crit hits.

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Posted by: JonasV.4209

JonasV.4209

That’s not bad. Especially since Fire has a decent radius for AoE. Probably going to go for Fire then. At 1K on normal hits that is considerable more than a non-crit autoattack hits for on my shortbow. Even in full exotics I’m lucky if my autoattack hit 700-750, on plate it is more like 500-600.

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Posted by: Chesire.9043

Chesire.9043

I went with Force sigil but I’m power/vit/toughness spec. I could’ve went with the siigl that gives power on kills, but I don’t think the damage will be much bigger, or very noticeable and since I just don’t want to have to kill 25 mobs after dying (lazy) it just fits. But yeah for high power/crit fire sigil is probably the best direct damage sigil if you’re looking for more AoE damage. I personally just don’t like relying on crit procs very much, at least not for anything but bleeds.

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Posted by: bri.2359

bri.2359

@OP
First, I play only PvE, and have no problems in stacking the perception sigil.

My base crit chance 48%. With the best sigil of fire or air, my odds of the sigil triggering is 1 in 6. I open with Hunter’s Shot, followed by Rapid Fire, then usually the knock-back shot, then repeat as necessary. That is 12 shots. With a 1 in 6 chance, I could expect1 trigger from the sigil during that cycle, then it goes on 5 sec cooldown and have no further access to the bonus. Also, I will need luck to get another crit hit during that cycle

With the superior sigil of perception, once it is fully stacked, my crit chance increases to over 60%. That is a constant 2 in 3 chance of a crit until you are downed or log off the game. Over a 12 shot cycle I can expect at least 2-3 crit hits.

Yes, you need to keep it fully stacked for the max bonus, but this is easy. Farm a field of moas for a few minutes and you you are at max stack. If you are too lazy or in a rush, in PvE you will find enough mobs around to fill the stack soon enough. Also, as you stack precision, you become more efficient …

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Posted by: AlexRD.7914

AlexRD.7914

I like the Vampirism one, Sigil of Blood if i’m not mistaken.
It does less damage than say air, but if you have a high critical chance, it’s better since the cooldown is 2 seconds and not 5 seconds. That and it heals you

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Posted by: AsteriskCGY.5931

AsteriskCGY.5931

Is the fire AoE on player or on target?

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Posted by: rubmywontons.3972

rubmywontons.3972

@AsteriskCGY,

The fire does AoE on the target, which is nice.

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Posted by: Shilian.5873

Shilian.5873

Single target: Air
Multiple enemy: Fire

I am running fire on Longbow and air on Shortbow, as I use SB pretty much only for 1vs1, and LB when i fight group of enemies or from a safe long distance. Basically 1200 to 1500

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Posted by: Majik.8521

Majik.8521

also you could keep a spare bow in your bags with a sigil that stacks power or crit, then when you have the 25 stacks swap to the air or fire bow. just a thought. haven’t tested it out with the power or crit ones. however i do this with the magic find in pve and it works so don’t see why these would not work.

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Posted by: Tracker.6483

Tracker.6483

Single target: Air
Multiple enemy: Fire

I am running fire on Longbow and air on Shortbow, as I use SB pretty much only for 1vs1, and LB when i fight group of enemies or from a safe long distance. Basically 1200 to 1500

Try using Fire for single target as well. It’s barely less damage than Air, but will kill necro pets, Illusions etc

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Posted by: Dante Dragonhand.2538

Dante Dragonhand.2538

Ive tested both fire and air, and I decided to stick with air. Fire is weaker but aoe based. I tend to get 1400-1750 air procs depending on how much might I have, fire tends to be around 1200-1300.