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Posted by: arminius.5270

arminius.5270

howdy… what’s the stat priority for SB rangers, mainly WvW?

This is my best guess: condition damage > precision > vit > tough??

Thanks!

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Posted by: fishergrip.4082

fishergrip.4082

People will tell you different things, but I can share my thoughts as a SB ranger with about 3000 WvW kills.

SB is often thought of as a condition weapon because it can apply bleeding, but it is more powerful as a direct damage weapon for WvW. The direct damage on SB is fairly low for each shot, but it shoots very fast so it ends up doing much more direct damage than the longbow. Condition damage is not viable as a primary source of damage for a ranger in WvW because you need flank to apply bleeds and condition removals abound.

Stat allocation depends somewhat on your secondary weapon and what you want to do in WvW. If you want to use SB/LB build and only fight at long range, a full glass cannon build of power , prec and crit damage works pretty well. Just don’t expect to live too long if you are jumped by a thief or get focused by a zerg.

If you want to use any of the ranger’s melee weapons, have a chance against thieves and have better overall survivability, I recommend a build of toughness, power, precision and crit damage.

I personally use SB and GS, full knight’s gear, knight’s/berserker trinkets, berserker jewels, runes of ranger and a 30/25/15/0/0 trait allocation. 30 points in power with signet of stone is required for WvW rangers imo. This skill has saved me more times than I can count. Despite its long cooldown, I much prefer signet of stone to “protect me” since you can’t count on your pet to be alive in WvW and popping “protect me” when getting hit by a lot of enemies kills your pet in 1 second, making it next to useless when you need it most.

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Posted by: arminius.5270

arminius.5270

thank you, that was very helpful.

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Posted by: Ahrounmoon.9148

Ahrounmoon.9148

I’ve been struggling to figure out how I want to play my ranger endgame and I think this helps. I was already gearing towards vit/toughness with a mixture of knight’s and valkyrie gear, but using a longbow for burst damage on rapid fire and and a shortbow. I think giving up the pretense of burst damage may be what I needed to do, but now I can’t figure out what other skills to try instead. Any thoughts on what the remaining skills on the bar should be, or what pets work well with this approach?

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Posted by: Joey.3928

Joey.3928

I use Power,Toughness, Vitality, and healing power in that order. I used to use lonbow/shortbow but I think I am going to try longbow/sword and dagger.

I may ditch some vitality (Im currently around 20k hp) for more crit dmg but we will see!

Estel Wolfheart
Norn Ranger
Hardcorepwnograhpy [HARD] | Isle of Janthir

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Posted by: fishergrip.4082

fishergrip.4082

@arminius.5270

I’m glad you found it somewhat useful. I was hoping not to be too long-winded, but since there seems to be some interest I’ll provide a little few more thoughts.

@ Ahrounmoon.9148

I always use quickening zephyr and signet of stone for WvW. Even with the SB nerf QZ is our best source of burst damage and it still works quite well with sword or greatsword. The third utility skill I change based on what I feel like using or what I’m doing: signet of the wild for wall/zerg fighting at range, protect me or lightning reflexes for small groups and solo roaming.

I prefer greatsword as a secondary weapon over sword for a couple of reasons. First, you don’t get rooted in place when you auto attack and the damage is about the same. Second, the auto attack chain on GS provides a fair amount of evasion which lets you avoid 30-40% of damage in melee. With QZ, the amount of evasion seems to increase substantially. Third, swoop is very useful for getting in and out of combat. I believe it is the shortest cooldown movement skill of 1000+ range in the game. Finally, greatsword has a block skill. Block skills are easy to overlook as being bad because they are very situational, but it can be a godsend if you know a thief is about to attack you from stealth or you are about get hit by a strong NPC. Other than that, I find sword 2 and 3 to be quite awkward and inconsistent.

For my elite I use rampage as one unless I feel like jumping off a tower to root some people at a gate. Both root and rampage are good, but 20 seconds of stability without having to transform into something weird is amazingly useful and too many enemies can escape roots without breaking them.

As for pets, I prefer dog model pets (wolf or fern hound) and the raven for WvW. Dogs have good damage, a good knockdown, decent tankyness and decent F2 skills. The raven’s F2 is the highest damage skill for any pet and it blinds.

In my opinion, Vitality is overrated and should not be a focus for rangers. As long as you have decent condition removal (we have healing spring, which is amazing, and several other solid options) the main purpose of Vit is to survive a large burst of damage at the start of a fight. Once a fight starts and you lose your initial HP advantage, vit does nothing. Toughness increases the value of each hit point you have, so the more healing you get during a fight, the more valuable toughness becomes. Vit is best for classes that have low natural HP. Since rangers have medium natural HP,the ability to stay at range most of the time to avoid big damage and signet of stone/protect me to help survive huge bursts, Vit is less valuable for us.

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Posted by: aPutridCorpse.8792

aPutridCorpse.8792

I plan to do Power, Toughness, Vitality, Precision. In that order.
If rangers ever get their needed buffs, I plan to do WvW with longbow and axe/warhorn. Until then, I’m not bothering with PvP.

I’ve been focusing on those same stats for PvE and it’s working fine for me.

Although my latest personal quest was a bit tough! Think it was the level 48 or 50 quest that had me kiting mobs around the entire keep lol

Level 80 Asura Ranger
Level 30 Human Guardian