anyone know the venom share mechanics?

anyone know the venom share mechanics?

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Posted by: Leper.8301

Leper.8301

lets say im running venom share with the DoT venom, the slow venom and the weakness venom, and i pop thieves guild

my 2 thieves now have the same venoms as me when i activate them… but what does this give me if im fighting 1v1? as far as i can tell, you cant stack the DoT venom, and i’m guessing the other two conditions dont stack either

obviously in larger fights venom share is great for getting all your poisons on the enemy team but it looks like its not advantageous 1v1

or am i wrong?

anyone know the venom share mechanics?

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Posted by: Wiser with Age.3714

Wiser with Age.3714

Venomous Aura isn’t very clear in the text description. While it does share your Venom skill buffs to targets in range (up to 5 targets, including youself), this Major trait’s true power is that is also shares ALL of your Venom related trait abilities at the same time.

This means that it would trigger Venomous Might (T1 Deadly Arts) and Leeching Venoms (T2 Shadow Arts) to every target that gets your Venom buffs. For example, you cast Thieves Guild. Once your x2 Thief pets spawn, you activate Spider’s Venom. Both you and your pets get x2 Might stacks, x5 procs of Spider’s Venom, and x5 Life Drain components added to your Spider’s Venom. This means that a single hit by your pet will do more base damage because of the Might stacks, they’ll increase the Poison dot duration (which really doesn’t matter), and they’ll do bonus Life Drain damage to the target (regardless of whether or not your pet could benefit from the healing function of the Life Drain).

As a 60th level character, I can run with Thieves Guild and x2 Venom powers to easily solo down any of the road guards in WvW. While that isn’t impressive on its own, I was surprised just how quickly I could burst dps the guard down. There was a noticeable increase in my net dps once I got Venomous Aura and could buff my Thieves Guild pets.

On a side note, Leeching Venoms does have a 1 second cool down for its Life Drain function. So if you did something like a S/P Pistol Whip move, the rapid amount of swings would only cause x3 Life Drain procs while still using all x5 Spiders Venom procs.

anyone know the venom share mechanics?

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Posted by: Leper.8301

Leper.8301

i see, so that actually fits in really nicely to my might stacking/condition damage build! although with my current traits im gonna need to change things a lot to get 30 points for the venom share ><
i wanted to run it in pvp as a support build with good sustained damage cos there is no way in hell im gonna be one of those PW/HS spammers

anyone know the venom share mechanics?

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Posted by: Wiser with Age.3714

Wiser with Age.3714

Yeah, you really can’t get Venomous Aura easily. It’s the kind of trait spec which you have to intentionally center yourself around. Basically it demands Shadow Arts 30 (for Venomous Aura) & Deadly Arts 20 (for the Venom recast reduction). Some people will argue that you need to really have Deadly Arts 30 for the extra Venom proc on each venom skill, but I’d disagree with that. Then after those minimum of x50 Trait points have been used, you’ve got room to assign the remaining x20 into another line of your choice.

My own character is a tanky Thief who run S/P and more defensive stats. The trait spec to compliment this is Deadly Arts 20 / Shadow Arts 30 / Acrobatics 20. This character build is certainly abnormal by the normal Thief standards, but I’m really enjoying it and it’s performing well. In the end, we all have to play whatever makes us smile.

anyone know the venom share mechanics?

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Posted by: Leper.8301

Leper.8301

im undecided if its worth it in sPvP or not… the flat toughness from that trait line is good but i would have to sacrifice condition, power or vitality and i dont know if im willing to drop one xD

anyone know the venom share mechanics?

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Posted by: Wiser with Age.3714

Wiser with Age.3714

Venomous Aura specs are brutally strong in organized sPvP. They will often run Deadly Arts 30 / Shadows Arts 30 / (???) 10. A well organized group attack on a single target would result in 10 seconds of stun from Basilisk Venom. Also the various Venom buffs really help out your fellow players.

Having said that, this is a very group dependant sPvP spec. If you’re entering a random sPvP match without good cohesion or coordination, then that kind of extreme spec won’t perform very well.

anyone know the venom share mechanics?

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Posted by: Leper.8301

Leper.8301

to be honest i dont think the 10 seconds of stun would be worth it – if my maths is correct here thats a cumulative 30 seconds where the rest of your team cant do anything because they are waiting to line up their stun on 1 target out of potentially a whole team.

if everybody was fighting different targets it would still be an excellent stun on everyone, but generally you want to be all jumping on one or two enemies, all at the same time :\