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Posted by: Shadow Dragon Ad.2409

Shadow Dragon Ad.2409

I’m happy to announce the Team Paradigm Invitational

This will be a tournament that stretches over 4 weeks, running from June 8th to June 29th, all matches will be held on a Saturday usually starting at 16:00 BST for the first match (the time of day may change week by week).
All games will be streamed on the main Team Paradigm Channel (follow if you want to be notified when it goes live)


Hosts and Casters

Grouch – Twitter

Tehmaker – Twitter / Stream


Group Stages

Each week will feature 4 matches, each match being a best of two.

The Groups for the tournament can be found on the leaguepdia page

During the group stages each team will face the others in its group once during the 3 weeks, making for a total of 24 games over the course of the first 3 weeks with 12 matches being played.


Playoffs

The plays offs are Double Elimination brackets with the top 4 teams from the Group Stages going through. It will consist of 3 rounds with the first 2 being Bo3 and the Grand Finals being Bo5 with the team that progressed through higher bracket having a 1 game advantage


Additional information can be found on the FAQ and Leaguepedia Page

You can also find Team Paradigm on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter, all VoDs from the stream will be uploaded to YouTube for your viewing pleasure.


I would like to thank Nexus Esports for helping to make this tournament possible as well Arena Net for making a great game


Donations are being accepted for the Prize Pool. Also any purchases made using the Nexus Esports website will automatically have a small amount added to the prize pool.

Thanks For Reading

If you have any questions feel free to ask below

Shadow

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Posted by: Zanthrax.6538

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just my opinion, but im starting to feel we are spreading our efforts too thinly….too many tournaments and leagues and not on projects that actually benefit the community and promote longevity. This does nothing to improve the community and teach new players bring in more pvp’ers etc….and while promoting team formation I feel newer teams may be overwhelmed with all these different tournaments they can’t get to them all and they are pressured to perform from the get go….thus leading to potential premature disbanding.

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Posted by: Shadow Dragon Ad.2409

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This does nothing to improve the community and teach new players bring in more pvp’ers etc….and while promoting team formation I feel newer teams may be overwhelmed with all these different tournaments they can’t get to them all and they are pressured to perform from the get go….thus leading to potential premature disbanding.

Just my opinion but if nothing else this will artificially cause these 8 teams at least to stay together for the duration of the tournament to be in with a chance of winning the prizes. Also to say it doesn’t improve the community or bring in new pvp’ers when it provides consistent potentially high quality games that are going to be well advertised seems weird to me.

On the subject of over saturation I definitely agree too many would be a bad idea but if you look at the official calender on the ArenaNet Facebook there is no overlap between tournaments that I can see. Though it may dissuade more tournaments from popping up however it will only be for a short time (~3 hours) every Saturday which leaves plenty of time slots for other tournaments.

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Posted by: Follidus.8027

Follidus.8027

Awesome.

Cause I ain’t perfect, I never said I was.
But now they’re hating cause a brotha finally got some buzz
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Posted by: emon.1863

emon.1863

Great, would be something to watch on my next hangover

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Posted by: Zodian.6597

Zodian.6597

Good luck to everyone participating! Should be a fun time

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Posted by: Zanthrax.6538

Zanthrax.6538

This does nothing to improve the community and teach new players bring in more pvp’ers etc….and while promoting team formation I feel newer teams may be overwhelmed with all these different tournaments they can’t get to them all and they are pressured to perform from the get go….thus leading to potential premature disbanding.

Just my opinion but if nothing else this will artificially cause these 8 teams at least to stay together for the duration of the tournament to be in with a chance of winning the prizes. Also to say it doesn’t improve the community or bring in new pvp’ers when it provides consistent potentially high quality games that are going to be well advertised seems weird to me.

On the subject of over saturation I definitely agree too many would be a bad idea but if you look at the official calender on the ArenaNet Facebook there is no overlap between tournaments that I can see. Though it may dissuade more tournaments from popping up however it will only be for a short time (~3 hours) every Saturday which leaves plenty of time slots for other tournaments.

With all due respect….I see these kinds of tournaments encouraging already tpvp playing gamers to keep playing tpvp….I wouldnt expect non pvp’ers to see this and go hey this looks like something I might get in on. What I would rather see is something to encourage pvp growth of playerbase not encourage the current pvp base while not having growth….do you see my perspective? If we had a pvp big name trying to encourage those that haven’t tried pvp yet and try GROW our playerbase would be far more beneficial.

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Posted by: Brigg.6189

Brigg.6189

with no due respect, I think this is a great time to try a lot of tournaments, casters, set ups and see how it goes. Some competition for viewers may improve quality.

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Posted by: butch.8136

butch.8136

@zantrax But this is an invitational. It is the first of its kind (4 weeks long, with points, etc.) and it has the top teams in it (Most of ‘em really are the top). This boost the community, ’cus the matches will probably be very exciting too watch and yield high viewer counts. It’ll create more ‘hype’ and more people might consider playing/starting a team.
The other tournaments are probably gonna start doing 16 team brackets anyway and thus opening the player field too.

As for actual growth of the pvp scene. Most of this is in Anets hands atm. The community is doing lots of work (Tournaments every week since implementation of CA/SM). Now it’s Anets turn to polish the CA/SM, get it out of beta and make it public. Split the queues so people aren’t too frustrated and the leaderboard actually gets a meaning. If anet get this done, this will give another boost to the pvp community. From there we – the community- can do more projects to grow the pvp playerbase.

But honestly. Getting non-gw2 owners in —> Lots of advertisement and an existing and exciting scene (Anet hasnt done a new advert push ‘cus the features aren’t all in yet nor polished – the scene is steadily growing).

Getting gw2 owners into the pvp side —> More features. Better rewards, more casual friendly, etc.

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Posted by: Shar.3402

Shar.3402

tournaments…tournaments everywhere!

nice!

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Posted by: Walorx.5129

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This is probably a dumb question buuuuuut, this is for EU only, right?

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Posted by: emon.1863

emon.1863

@Walorx
Yes, its EU)

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Posted by: Empathetic Fighter.2065

Empathetic Fighter.2065

I see always nearly the same teams. There are better guilds out there than some in the brackets :S

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Posted by: Sakulos.7963

Sakulos.7963

Why you wont invite more teams?

We (Royal Legion) played close games against few teams invited, won some and lost some.. We are not #1, or very high in leaderboards (we try out builds/strategy and often lose games bcoz of that), but i feel left out.

We lost against That So Pish in Vonethil tournament due to great Lord rush, but the team fights were very intense and close. I Dont get it why other teams that got kicked out in second game, same as we did, get invites and we dont, but i guess i’ll never get to know.

Sorry for bad english, i dont use it often, since i play with friends from my country. ^^

Best of luck, for all teams invited.

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Posted by: TRoopEr.5364

TRoopEr.5364

E-sport never develope if you do invite teams like this.
E-sports = more and more people participate.
If you took into account the last curse tournament: thats how it should work out – invite 4 teams that went from 1/4 to 1/2.
Then there should be an open qualifire tournament for rest of the teams.

The fact that my team didn’t had a chance to play curse tournament drive me out of any games? We’ve beated all teams that listed in ladder play, but i think who cares.

Good luck anyway.

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Posted by: Empathetic Fighter.2065

Empathetic Fighter.2065

The system they bring up here is one of the bests. Facing different teams gives better insight on which level ppl are playing. With some opponents you’re comfortable and with some you have problems. Playing only against one team is not really accurate.

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Posted by: Shalla.3967

Shalla.3967

Awesome, good luck with the tourney!

Not having a team is really starting to bug me.

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Posted by: Erwin.5603

Erwin.5603

The group brackets are very strange with 1 Top4 Curse tourney team in Group A and 3 Top4 Curse tourney teams in group B…

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Posted by: Empathetic Fighter.2065

Empathetic Fighter.2065

The group brackets are very strange with 1 Top4 Curse tourney team in Group A and 3 Top4 Curse tourney teams in group B…

The curse-tourny didn’t really showed all teams potential. I have a totally different view, but that’s subjective.

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Posted by: Erwin.5603

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The group brackets are very strange with 1 Top4 Curse tourney team in Group A and 3 Top4 Curse tourney teams in group B…

The curse-tourny didn’t really showed all teams potential. I have a totally different view, but that’s subjective.

Everyone has his own view, but the latest big tourney is the only real fact.

Fixi

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Posted by: Empathetic Fighter.2065

Empathetic Fighter.2065

The group brackets are very strange with 1 Top4 Curse tourney team in Group A and 3 Top4 Curse tourney teams in group B…

The curse-tourny didn’t really showed all teams potential. I have a totally different view, but that’s subjective.

Everyone has his own view, but the latest big tourney is the only real fact.

Playing against two teams out of 7 possible tells me no fact at all.

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Posted by: butch.8136

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Past tournaments had lots of subs too.

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The group brackets are very strange with 1 Top4 Curse tourney team in Group A and 3 Top4 Curse tourney teams in group B…

The curse-tourny didn’t really showed all teams potential. I have a totally different view, but that’s subjective.

Everyone has his own view, but the latest big tourney is the only real fact.

No fact, sum of all tourneys could be a fact, quite more than only 1 :-)
Like Empa said, in reality it will be kinda diferent. The Mist league maybe give an better overview, called at least an Team leaderboard during the seassons…

I also think there are better Teams out there like maybe some listed Teams, at least theyr problem will be that nobody rly knows them…

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Posted by: Erwin.5603

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The group brackets are very strange with 1 Top4 Curse tourney team in Group A and 3 Top4 Curse tourney teams in group B…

The curse-tourny didn’t really showed all teams potential. I have a totally different view, but that’s subjective.

Everyone has his own view, but the latest big tourney is the only real fact.

No fact, sum of all tourneys could be a fact, quite more than only 1 :-)
Like Empa said, in reality it will be kinda diferent. The Mist league maybe give an better overview, called at least an Team leaderboard during the seassons…

I also think there are better Teams out there like maybe some listed Teams, at least theyr problem will be that nobody rly knows them…

So you are telling me that you personal view should be considered more accurate than actual results? Sorry I can’t agree to that, even if 10 people tell me that xy is better than yx, there is no proof.

Fixi

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Posted by: Empathetic Fighter.2065

Empathetic Fighter.2065

The group brackets are very strange with 1 Top4 Curse tourney team in Group A and 3 Top4 Curse tourney teams in group B…

The curse-tourny didn’t really showed all teams potential. I have a totally different view, but that’s subjective.

Everyone has his own view, but the latest big tourney is the only real fact.

No fact, sum of all tourneys could be a fact, quite more than only 1 :-)
Like Empa said, in reality it will be kinda diferent. The Mist league maybe give an better overview, called at least an Team leaderboard during the seassons…

I also think there are better Teams out there like maybe some listed Teams, at least theyr problem will be that nobody rly knows them…

So you are telling me that you personal view should be considered more accurate than actual results? Sorry I can’t agree to that, even if 10 people tell me that xy is better than yx, there is no proof.

Prozon is actually telling you that nobody can say which team is top4 and wich not.
And now you come up with the latest tournament where 6 out of 8 guilds faced 1 or 2 team out of 7 possible opponents and saying it is accurate?

Let’s say TCG and TP were playing in the first round against each other. Now one of these two teams will definitely loose in the first round. Ergo: TCG or TP is not in the top4 of the tournament. With you telling us the top4 teams of the curse-tournament is an accurate fact, this would mean TCG or either TP is not one of those.
An easy example which shows you, that facts don’t work on the base of one single-elmination tournament.

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Posted by: Tarin Twisted.4183

Tarin Twisted.4183

The problem is that ANET does not have a team ranking system yet.

Once a team ranking system is in place you can have monthly tournaments with say 32 teams with the top 16 ranks getting in automatically and a 1 match sudden death qualifier for the next 32 teams to make the tournament.

With 16 rooms (casters in rooms with highest fan votes) a 32 team tournament could easily be done in one day.

The only thing missing would be to open up custom arenas and to implement a team ranking system. Heck, imagine if the match making system actually matched teams up against one another based on rank…now we would be talking!!! Pugs would be so much happier as well.

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Posted by: Xeph.4513

Xeph.4513

The group brackets are very strange with 1 Top4 Curse tourney team in Group A and 3 Top4 Curse tourney teams in group B…

The curse-tourny didn’t really showed all teams potential. I have a totally different view, but that’s subjective.

Everyone has his own view, but the latest big tourney is the only real fact.

No fact, sum of all tourneys could be a fact, quite more than only 1 :-)
Like Empa said, in reality it will be kinda diferent. The Mist league maybe give an better overview, called at least an Team leaderboard during the seassons…

I also think there are better Teams out there like maybe some listed Teams, at least theyr problem will be that nobody rly knows them…

So you are telling me that you personal view should be considered more accurate than actual results? Sorry I can’t agree to that, even if 10 people tell me that xy is better than yx, there is no proof.

Prozon is actually telling you that nobody can say which team is top4 and wich not.
And now you come up with the latest tournament where 6 out of 8 guilds faced 1 or 2 team out of 7 possible opponents and saying it is accurate?

Let’s say TCG and TP were playing in the first round against each other. Now one of these two teams will definitely loose in the first round. Ergo: TCG or TP is not in the top4 of the tournament. With you telling us the top4 teams of the curse-tournament is an accurate fact, this would mean TCG or either TP is not one of those.
An easy example which shows you, that facts don’t work on the base of one single-elmination tournament.

I think that the teams were mainly selected through speaking with various different teams, along with the first two tournaments that were held.

Sadly there is no way to accurately gauge which teams are the best, but there isn’t much we can do about that, because each person has their individual opinion. If you don’t feel that any of these teams deserve to be up there and do have a valid reason as why, then feel free to send me a personal message regarding the matter, apart from that our hands are tide in that regard.

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Posted by: Erwin.5603

Erwin.5603

Anyone an idea who “Unnamed” is? Player names would help me.

Fixi

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Posted by: Med.6150

Med.6150

The things to remember are:

No matter how good a team is they seem to struggle with some and have a much easier time with others and this is not solely based on team composition. Team A might be strong against Team B and weak against Team C, while Team B is strong against Team C.

Then, unless I misunderstand the rules, the final winner will be determined between the winner of the winner’s bracket and that of the loser’s bracket, so that a lucky or unlucky draw for your respective group bracket is mitigated somewhat.

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Posted by: Shadow Dragon Ad.2409

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In regards to concerns about certain teams not being invited, I limited the number of participating teams to 8 because this is more of a pilot to gauge interest in extended tournaments with group stages. Tournaments are time intensive and can be quite costly (though not so much in the current scene) so to run an extensive one without testing the waters would be foolish. There are also a limited number of games that can be run over a day and I didn’t want to take up too much air time and impact other potential tournaments from springing up.

If this months Invitational is a success then I may look into the viability of having a 12 team tournament to accommodate the size of the EU scene however this will cause the number of matches each weekend to rise from 4 (8 games total) to 10 (20 games total) which is a 2.5x increase in the number of games which will not only be kitten the casters if run over a single day but also cause a stranglehold on broadcasting times even if split over 2 days.

It is important to note that whilst I feel that the top 4 teams in the tournament should automatically be re invited the bottom 4 slots can be filled up via an open bracket allowing the previous teams and potential new blood to come into the tournament.

In terms of weighted brackets with Group 2 looking potentially stronger I will speak with the teams involved as well as other people involved in the scene to see how they would split them. However it is my opinion that right now the teams are on a relatively even footing with a lot of teams often being able to take games of the others.

As an idea for those who do feel the brackets are unfairly weighted moving MiM from Group 2 over to Group 1 and moving Sealclubbers over to Group 2 to better distribute the teams is something I will look into.

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Posted by: Xeph.4513

Xeph.4513

Anyone an idea who “Unnamed” is? Player names would help me.

Vonethil
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Posted by: TRoopEr.5364

TRoopEr.5364

I

It is important to note that whilst I feel that the top 4 teams in the tournament should automatically be re invited the bottom 4 slots can be filled up via an open bracket allowing the previous teams and potential new blood to come into the tournament.

This is what i am speaking about. You can’t invite people just because they are friends/known by you/other excuses. You need to deserve to play tourney, to qualify for it. And as i see 2-3 teams won’t qualifie it if it would be open bracket.

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Posted by: Shadow Dragon Ad.2409

Shadow Dragon Ad.2409

I

It is important to note that whilst I feel that the top 4 teams in the tournament should automatically be re invited the bottom 4 slots can be filled up via an open bracket allowing the previous teams and potential new blood to come into the tournament.

This is what i am speaking about. You can’t invite people just because they are friends/known by you/other excuses. You need to deserve to play tourney, to qualify for it. And as i see 2-3 teams won’t qualifie it if it would be open bracket.

As mentioned in the quoted text the teams that are automatically invited are done so on a proven track record, they got out of their group stages for the first tournament. The bottom 4 spots are then up for grabs by any team that’s willing to go through the open bracket (if I use that system). Due to the size of the EU scene I cannot possibly hope to accommodate all the existing high level teams thus some form of qualification is required or in the case of an invitational some teams will unfortunately not be invited.

If you are speaking specifically about the current teams involved then I explained it in my post but I will reiterate what was said. This is a pilot tournament, it is here to test the waters and see if it is viable to run another. It is also an invitational and by definition an invitational means the teams will be invited rather than qualify.

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Posted by: Empathetic Fighter.2065

Empathetic Fighter.2065

The group brackets are very strange with 1 Top4 Curse tourney team in Group A and 3 Top4 Curse tourney teams in group B…

The curse-tourny didn’t really showed all teams potential. I have a totally different view, but that’s subjective.

Everyone has his own view, but the latest big tourney is the only real fact.

No fact, sum of all tourneys could be a fact, quite more than only 1 :-)
Like Empa said, in reality it will be kinda diferent. The Mist league maybe give an better overview, called at least an Team leaderboard during the seassons…

I also think there are better Teams out there like maybe some listed Teams, at least theyr problem will be that nobody rly knows them…

So you are telling me that you personal view should be considered more accurate than actual results? Sorry I can’t agree to that, even if 10 people tell me that xy is better than yx, there is no proof.

Prozon is actually telling you that nobody can say which team is top4 and wich not.
And now you come up with the latest tournament where 6 out of 8 guilds faced 1 or 2 team out of 7 possible opponents and saying it is accurate?

Let’s say TCG and TP were playing in the first round against each other. Now one of these two teams will definitely loose in the first round. Ergo: TCG or TP is not in the top4 of the tournament. With you telling us the top4 teams of the curse-tournament is an accurate fact, this would mean TCG or either TP is not one of those.
An easy example which shows you, that facts don’t work on the base of one single-elmination tournament.

I think that the teams were mainly selected through speaking with various different teams, along with the first two tournaments that were held.

Sadly there is no way to accurately gauge which teams are the best, but there isn’t much we can do about that, because each person has their individual opinion. If you don’t feel that any of these teams deserve to be up there and do have a valid reason as why, then feel free to send me a personal message regarding the matter, apart from that our hands are tide in that regard.

I don’t want to Point out any guild here. These Teams are all nice ppl playing on a good Level and absolutely deserve to be in the roster. However what I wanted to say is that there are more competitive guilds out there, which hasn’t been recognized till now. It would be great to bring in some new flesh.

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Posted by: Spell.6082

Spell.6082

The group brackets are very strange with 1 Top4 Curse tourney team in Group A and 3 Top4 Curse tourney teams in group B…

The curse-tourny didn’t really showed all teams potential. I have a totally different view, but that’s subjective.

Everyone has his own view, but the latest big tourney is the only real fact.

No fact, sum of all tourneys could be a fact, quite more than only 1 :-)
Like Empa said, in reality it will be kinda diferent. The Mist league maybe give an better overview, called at least an Team leaderboard during the seassons…

I also think there are better Teams out there like maybe some listed Teams, at least theyr problem will be that nobody rly knows them…

So you are telling me that you personal view should be considered more accurate than actual results? Sorry I can’t agree to that, even if 10 people tell me that xy is better than yx, there is no proof.

Prozon is actually telling you that nobody can say which team is top4 and wich not.
And now you come up with the latest tournament where 6 out of 8 guilds faced 1 or 2 team out of 7 possible opponents and saying it is accurate?

Let’s say TCG and TP were playing in the first round against each other. Now one of these two teams will definitely loose in the first round. Ergo: TCG or TP is not in the top4 of the tournament. With you telling us the top4 teams of the curse-tournament is an accurate fact, this would mean TCG or either TP is not one of those.
An easy example which shows you, that facts don’t work on the base of one single-elmination tournament.

I think that the teams were mainly selected through speaking with various different teams, along with the first two tournaments that were held.

Sadly there is no way to accurately gauge which teams are the best, but there isn’t much we can do about that, because each person has their individual opinion. If you don’t feel that any of these teams deserve to be up there and do have a valid reason as why, then feel free to send me a personal message regarding the matter, apart from that our hands are tide in that regard.

I don’t want to Point out any guild here. These Teams are all nice ppl playing on a good Level and absolutely deserve to be in the roster. However what I wanted to say is that there are more competitive guilds out there, which hasn’t been recognized till now. It would be great to bring in some new flesh.

I don’t want to say anything, but you were first guy who wrote that GW2 community doesn’t need a tournament open for everyone, because its too soon.
Don’t expect tourneys done by amateur organizers to be open for everyone since its too big of a hustle for them. Only way to actually do it (by ‘IT’ i mean open tournament for everyone, not only for the chosen ones) properly is to be done in already well organised environment such as ESL (or you would need a lot of people to take care of all scores and brackets with well prepared website to store and easily upload results of each match, which wouldn’t be easy anyway). Not to say that most of those tourney matches wouldn’t be streamed since you basically won’t be able to follow everything (and no stream viewership means no amateur want to organize such a event in that scale – ofcourse finals would be streamed but for amount of effort put in, it wouldn’t make sense).

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Posted by: Motoko.2875

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I would like to thank Arena Net for making a great game

Yes! Thank you Anet for making GW1 – I can only hope that you learn from your predecessor and eventually turn GW2 into a great game as well!

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Posted by: Shadow Dragon Ad.2409

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It has been decided that Onibawan will the final team to take part in theTeam Paradigm Invitational.

There will also now be a Show Match details can be found here

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