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Disqualifying Team Curse (Formerly Team Paradigm)

We regret to inform the community that Team Curse (formerly Team Paradigm) has been disqualified from the Guild Wars 2 Invitational Tournament.

We have reviewed the eligibility documents provided by Team Curse with our legal team and have determined that they fielded an ineligible player during the European Regional Qualifying Tournament.

Team Curse has always demonstrated good character and has been a foundation of the PvP community. We hold Team Curse in the highest regard and have no reason to believe that they fielded an ineligible player out of malice or that they deliberately disregarded the rules. However, we must disqualify the team based on the stated rules and to be fair to other teams who complied with our eligibility requirements in forming their teams.

It is our goal to make events like this open to as many players as possible; however, we must adhere to the fact that every country or state has unique legal requirements and rules for running tournaments and awarding prizes that apply to their citizens. We will continue to look to expand upon who can participate in our tournaments in the future.

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Posted by: Cosine.7841

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Does that mean Car Crash will take their spot in the finals?

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Posted by: Darek.1836

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so does that make 4 teams coming to invitational now

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Posted by: serious.1739

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so does that make 4 teams coming to invitational now

Why 4, do you know what disqualify means?

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Posted by: Vena.8436

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So how does this get remedied? Does CC move on or does NA auto-win?

Also who/why/why now?

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Posted by: butch.8136

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Ow…my…god….

And…you couldn’t do this before the tournament? The community doesn’t need this.

Anyway… QQ inc!

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Posted by: Yagamy.1569

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i dont really understand why u’re telling us and especially telling Curse(old tp) after the tournament has already finished was it 1 week ago or 2?
it obviously sucks for them a lot since they probably had a lot of practise for that tournament and telling them " u cant go because we checked stuff and we realized u couldnt partecipate at all " is just …….

i also understand this decision but at the same time the way you handled it is totally wrong you should’ve told them before the tournament even started

what happens now since Curse won the tournament, are u gonna send CC which was the 2nd team or what?

at the same time though Tp should’ve known if they could actually partecipate in it or not i heard they made sure they could partecipate.. well guess they didnt

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Posted by: nonola.6217

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How happens that their documents are not looked from the beginning???
It is totally anything? It is in finale International, that you realize that there is a problem?.

GW2 is not prepared undoubtedly yet to be a game(set,play) Esport, I am largely disappointed.

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Posted by: Aerons.8702

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what a shame….

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Posted by: TRoopEr.5364

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This is reasonable. Duralex Sed Lex or how it is said.

www.guildwars2pro.com – Leagues and tournaments.

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Posted by: salchiplayer.6290

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Well, in my opinion CC should go to Seattle if TP or Team Curse will not go.

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Posted by: Romek.4201

Romek.4201

wtf?
so now no point to watch this anymore – who cares for 2 random teams fighting each other

so you can skip pax and patch finaly the game – nerf necro etc

bye

btw – team paradigm won and IS atm the best eu team and you should atleast give them “something”

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Posted by: Defektive.7283

Defektive.7283

wtf?
so now no point to watch this anymore – who cares for 2 random teams fighting each other

so you can skip pax and patch finaly the game – nerf necro etc

bye

btw – team paradigm won and IS atm the best eu team and you should atleast give them “something”

Why should they get something for winning a tournament they didn’t qualify for…

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Posted by: derogs.6570

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There goes most of your twitch viewers for PAX.

Seriously disqualifying your only team that went “pro” with Curse sponsorship is bad business however you put it.
And not to mention that checking eligibility should be done before tournament. Who knows how many teams had “legal” issues and still competed in regionals.

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Posted by: jsu.4370

jsu.4370

There goes most of your twitch viewers for PAX.

Seriously disqualifying your only team that went “pro” with Curse sponsorship is bad business however you put it.
And not to mention that checking eligibility should be done before tournament. Who knows how many teams had “legal” issues and still competed in regionals.

While Team Paradigm won the day, a member of the team was unable to provide proof of residency in an eligible country. This means that Team Paradigm was not fielding a legal team of five players when qualifying. As a result, the second-place team, Car Crash, will be coming to the Guild Wars 2 Invitational Tournament as the representative from the European Qualifying Tournament. We’d like to thank all the teams that participated.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-winners-of-our-european-pvp-tournament-2/

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Posted by: Defektive.7283

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There goes most of your twitch viewers for PAX.

Seriously disqualifying your only team that went “pro” with Curse sponsorship is bad business however you put it.
And not to mention that checking eligibility should be done before tournament. Who knows how many teams had “legal” issues and still competed in regionals.

One of them probably can’t travel the the states (could be for many reasons), if this is true and they knew they were to be flown to Seattle then the responsibility lays on the team.

I want to know what’s currently happening with the PAX tournament. Is it cancelled? Is CC taking their spot? What’s happening. I had plans to head down to PAX to watch / meet up some with players, but I don’t want to waste my time / money if it’s canned.

CC is taking the spot, its on the news section of the forums.

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Posted by: Xeph.4513

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Let me clear a few things up; we had a lot of miscommunication with the tournament organisers namely “Mistleague” where we were lead to believe that we were eligible to play in the tournament.
However after sending the paper work in, Arenanet found us not to be eligible to play in the tournament.
This is in no way Arenanets fault, and we are also partially to blame for what happened.

Sorry.

Team Paradigm.
Xeph.

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Posted by: Defektive.7283

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Let me clear a few things up; we had a lot of miscommunication with the tournament organisers namely “Mistleague” where we were lead to believe that we were eligible to play in the tournament.
However after sending the paper work in, Arenanet found us not to be eligible to play in the tournament.
This is in no way Arenanets fault, and we are also partially to blame for what happened.

Sorry.

Mind if I ask what the communication issue was with ML?

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Posted by: Katran.9186

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So much fail. However – who cares? There were only 2k EU viewers. Any dotastream has 1k times more.

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Posted by: Nix.3152

Nix.3152

i am just interested this is racism or what? why you cant play if you are not na or eu?
i hope CC will boycott this.

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Posted by: DrLane.5248

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wtf?
so now no point to watch this anymore – who cares for 2 random teams fighting each other

so you can skip pax and patch finaly the game – nerf necro etc

bye

btw – team paradigm won and IS atm the best eu team and you should atleast give them “something”

I dont know if you saw the Finals CC vs TP , but it was very close games. Saying tp is the best team atm is not so true , they are at equal lvl with CC ( even if they play together for 1 year).They won this match but they lost many more in ladder games/scrims…

I m sorry for Paradigm if they cant go because of tournament rules , but CC will provide good entertainement .

Tbh , best finals would have been CC vs TP , both are good teams with equal lvl and there are some dramas between this 2 teams ( like when they accused Mogow of “macroing” , or CC crying to bo3 being changed to bo5).

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Posted by: tichorum.2415

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So much fail. However – who cares? There were only 2k EU viewers. Any dotastream has 1k times more.

Dota deviated from WC3. It’s been around for over a decade. No wonder it had 300k viewers. GW2 PvP has been around for not even a year. And it just started getting competitive. Dota cannot be compared to an MMORPG’s PvP.

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Posted by: Med.6150

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Has CCs documentation been put through the same level of scrutiny, since nobody at Anet could have foreseen TC getting disqualified until now.

Is it possible that they (Car Crash) will turn out to be ineligible as well?

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Yes, CC’s documentation all checks out. The entire team is eligible.

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Posted by: Med.6150

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Yes, CC’s documentation all checks out. The entire team is eligible.

Thank you, Allie.

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Posted by: Skype.2193

Skype.2193

So much fail. However – who cares? There were only 2k EU viewers. Any dotastream has 1k times more.

Dota deviated from WC3. It’s been around for over a decade. No wonder it had 300k viewers. GW2 PvP has been around for not even a year. And it just started getting competitive. Dota cannot be compared to an MMORPG’s PvP.

And GW2 isnt related to GW1? Its also been around for nearly a decade… but you are right, you cannot compare MMORPGs PvP with MOBA.

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Posted by: Vuh.1328

Vuh.1328

most unprofessional tournament handled tournament i’ve seen for a looong time…

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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642

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So much fail. However – who cares? There were only 2k EU viewers. Any dotastream has 1k times more.

Dota deviated from WC3. It’s been around for over a decade. No wonder it had 300k viewers. GW2 PvP has been around for not even a year. And it just started getting competitive. Dota cannot be compared to an MMORPG’s PvP.

And GW2 isnt related to GW1? Its also been around for nearly a decade… but you are right, you cannot compare MMORPGs PvP with MOBA.

GW2 costs 40-50 bucks so obviously there is less playerbase than a free to play MOBA like Dota2 and LoL.

After fixing up PvP they must release a pvp-edition of the game, either for free or for like 5 bucks. This all after there are a vast number of free trial weekends with PvP only available to see if they can grab more players’ attention.

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Posted by: serious.1739

serious.1739

They should have read the rules before they atempted to play the tournament.

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Posted by: Vena.8436

Vena.8436

So much fail. However – who cares? There were only 2k EU viewers. Any dotastream has 1k times more.

I think you confused EU with NA.

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Posted by: Skype.2193

Skype.2193

So much fail. However – who cares? There were only 2k EU viewers. Any dotastream has 1k times more.

I think you confused EU with NA.

EU werent that much more viewers. Only when CC vs TP started the viewer numbers increased to 4k~
Until then they were just 2k or less

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Posted by: Katran.9186

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So much fail. However – who cares? There were only 2k EU viewers. Any dotastream has 1k times more.

I think you confused EU with NA.

We’re talking bout Paradigm, aren’t we? I saw EU stream. 2.3k viewers at the peak

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Posted by: Shadow Dragon Ad.2409

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Just to clarify this for anyone that is wondering what happened from our end I’ll go through some details. We contacted the tournament organiser (Mist League) before the tournament about Xeph being eligible to participate in the tournament and were given the green light by them. This was on the condition that he would be in Seattle and have his own accommodation paid for the duration of the event.

A few days after the qualification tournament we were contacted by ArenaNet saying that their lawyer had brought up some issues with Xeph participating and that he would not be eligible to go. We then made a rush to find a substitute player who had all the proper documentation within time; we succeeded in doing so and thought there would be no further issues.

Despite us confirming with the tournament organiser it wouldn’t be an issue; as well as finding a subsitute on short demand, we were later informed by ArenaNet we would not going to be going to PAX. This was on the condition that Car Crash could get all their documentation in on time. As can be seen by the announcement they succeeded in doing so and now have a place at PAX in favour of Curse.

Everyone on the team is obviously greatly disheartened by the outcome of these events, however Curse shall continue to be involved in the competitive Guild Wars 2 scene with a full roster.

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So much fail. However – who cares? There were only 2k EU viewers. Any dotastream has 1k times more.

I think you confused EU with NA.

We’re talking bout Paradigm, aren’t we? I saw EU stream. 2.3k viewers at the peak

No it peaked at 3.6 and along with the other streams that were streaming the EU tourney but in different languages it was about 5k viewers total.

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Posted by: Skype.2193

Skype.2193

So much fail. However – who cares? There were only 2k EU viewers. Any dotastream has 1k times more.

I think you confused EU with NA.

We’re talking bout Paradigm, aren’t we? I saw EU stream. 2.3k viewers at the peak

No it peaked at 3.6 and along with the other streams that were streaming the EU tourney but in different languages it was about 5k viewers total.

only the final had 3.6k viewers. Most time the tourney had 1.5k-2k viewers

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Posted by: Marco.6270

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The eSport scene for Guild Wars 2 is a tremendous joke. There are so many people that were expecting Team Paradigm (Team Curse) to play in the finals since they’ve been together since beta days and stuck together all this time. They deserve to be at PAX, they have the skills and worked hard for it and now they are being punished because of bad management between Anet and Mistleague.

I’m not willing to watch the finals or follow the “esport events” for this game anymore and I’m pretty sure there are lots of people feeling the same way. This game had a lot of potential but Anet was unable to handle it properly.

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Posted by: butch.8136

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Well, props to TP if they stick together or atleast stick to this game. I’m a casual gamer but this news has me extremely bummed. And not because TP can’t go, just because of how the whole thing has been handled.
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Posted by: knyy.6427

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i wont watch the finals as well. this is just stupid and unbelievable.

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Posted by: Defektive.7283

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"
Registration will open next week, for players that live in Canada, United States of America, Mexico, and the European Union plus Iceland, Montenegro, Norway, Serbia, Switzerland, Turkey and are 18 years of age or older,"

UAE or any Asian country wasn’t listed as an eligible Country.

Not quite sure why TC attempted to have an Asian country player, play; or why ML allowed it. Especially when the rules were most likely dictated by lawyers beforehand.

Seems like this whole thing could have never come to fruition if people just followed directions the first time.

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Posted by: dawhl.4670

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So disappointed…

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Posted by: Jalad Lantana.3027

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The fact the team was allowed to enter and win the preliminaries before the requirements were checked is indicative of the slapped together at the last minute unprofessional quality of effort Anet puts into spvp and their eSport fantasy.

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Posted by: derogs.6570

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@Defektive

What part of

“We contacted the tournament organiser (Mist League) before the tournament about Xeph being eligible to participate in the tournament and were given the green light by them”

do you not understand?

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Posted by: Defektive.7283

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@Defektive

What part of

“We contacted the tournament organiser (Mist League) before the tournament about Xeph being eligible to participate in the tournament and were given the green light by them”

do you not understand?

The part where Mist League isn’t owned or operated by ArenaNet, the latter of which set up the requirements of the tournament, and the former of which allowed a player outside of those requirements to play.

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Posted by: Xeph.4513

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@Defektive

What part of

“We contacted the tournament organiser (Mist League) before the tournament about Xeph being eligible to participate in the tournament and were given the green light by them”

do you not understand?

The part where Mist League isn’t owned or operated by ArenaNet, the latter of which set up the requirements of the tournament, and the former of which allowed a player outside of those requirements to play.

because Mistleague were the organisers of the tournament. I thought that was apparent.

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Posted by: katsu.4052

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Bummer, I was looking forward to seeing Crs/TP at PAX too because I’ve been following Teldo, Phataram, Xeph for so long =(

I’m sure whatever team goes as a replacement is just as skilled, but it just isn’t the same.

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Posted by: Defektive.7283

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@Defektive

What part of

“We contacted the tournament organiser (Mist League) before the tournament about Xeph being eligible to participate in the tournament and were given the green light by them”

do you not understand?

The part where Mist League isn’t owned or operated by ArenaNet, the latter of which set up the requirements of the tournament, and the former of which allowed a player outside of those requirements to play.

because Mistleague were the organisers of the tournament. I thought that was apparent.

They organized the tournament: IE set up brackets, monitored and shout casted, utilized a website and performed the stream.

They however did not set up the rules and regulations surrounding players being eligible to play – ArenaNet did. They stated the rules (as I reposted beforehand).

TC and yourself decided to go to MistLeague, not ArenaNet; AKA an organization who did not create the rules. ML then most likely gave you incorrect information without consulting ArenaNet and their law staff. This resulted in your eventual DQ.

I place blame on MistLeague for not being thorough, but also on TC for hoping for an exception from the rules from the very organization that didn’t create them nor evaluates eligibility.

Edit:
Rules are there to be followed.

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Posted by: serious.1739

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I prefer a team what is capable to almost beat TP just playing together for a month. whose players had been playing together since beta, and we could still discuss if the final was meant to be a bo3 or a bo5. And I prefer them to be there too because posi and super were high level GW1 players.

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Posted by: Shalla.3967

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Just to clarify this for anyone that is wondering what happened from our end I’ll go through some details. We contacted the tournament organiser (Mist League) before the tournament about Xeph being eligible to participate in the tournament and were given the green light by them. This was on the condition that he would be in Seattle and have his own accommodation paid for the duration of the event.

A few days after the qualification tournament we were contacted by ArenaNet saying that their lawyer had brought up some issues with Xeph participating and that he would not be eligible to go. We then made a rush to find a substitute player who had all the proper documentation within time; we succeeded in doing so and thought there would be no further issues.

Despite us confirming with the tournament organiser it wouldn’t be an issue; as well as finding a subsitute on short demand, we were later informed by ArenaNet we would not going to be going to PAX. This was on the condition that Car Crash could get all their documentation in on time. As can be seen by the announcement they succeeded in doing so and now have a place at PAX in favour of Curse.

Everyone on the team is obviously greatly disheartened by the outcome of these events, however Curse shall continue to be involved in the competitive Guild Wars 2 scene with a full roster.

Truly disappointed with these news. I don’t understand why they couldn’t go with their substitute player.

I guess I’ll be cheering for the NA team then.

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Posted by: Godofallu.2935

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It’s a huge shame that ArenaNet continues to mooch free work from unprofessional and unqualified members of the community. Time and time again we are left with shoddy shoutcasting, wrong scores and team names, questionable brackets and an overall lack of quality and professionalism.

I understand that free kitten is better than nothing at all but this was the one tournament that ArenaNet was actually pretending to care about and was willing to pay for. Yet rather than actually hire and pay someone they skimped out and went with free labor which led to screwup after screwup.

Whoever told Xeph he could play has just cost Tp about $10,000 and a dream trip that they would remember for the rest of their lives. I hope you’re happy with yourself.

PS: I’m assuming the registration comes with a waiver that forfeits all rights to sue but I wouldn’t be that surprised if it was possible to go after whoever gave you the greenlight. That was negligence and assuming you still have the emails a case would be possible.

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