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Posted by: PotatoOverdose.6583

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Play whichever class you find mokittenn. That’s what GW2 is about.

Posted the above in engineer forums.
The censored words above are “most” “fun”.

Your overzealous censoring censors “most” followed by “fun”.

Really, I mean really?

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Posted by: Hexy.7468

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they are sensoring the last two letters “st” and the first two letters “fu”

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Posted by: DaveK.1023

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Trying now: mokittenn

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Sorry everybody, there was a bug with some updates to the filter. Please continue to report any bugs you find here in this thread. The most fun bug has been corrected at this time.

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

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“shouldn’t” + “it” = kitten.

took me some minutes to realize what was the issue, then i lol’d.

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Posted by: ZhangoSqu.5219

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“wasn’t” + “it” = kitten (here)

and…

“one” + “group” = kitten (here)

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Posted by: Nefaria.7659

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" “shouldn’t” + “it” = kitten
“wasn’t” + “it” = kitten "

The filter is obviously trying to enforce proper english.
The phrases, non-contracted are “should not it” and “was not it”; I think in actual sentence use it would be “should it not” and “was it not” or “it should not” or “it was not”

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Posted by: klavshc.3546

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So basically to test if stuff is getting caught in the filter we could test by making up “unproper” English sentences? Interesting.

“It shouldn’t not has been happenings at this here frequencys b ut it kittenin is”

Posting now, purely to freak out the filter if it has any feelings towars filtering incorrect English.

*Edit darnit only 1 Kitten trapped in my word trap which was a normal way of spelling an act of love making where the spelling mimicked the spelling of the word “bokken”.

Maybe someone else being more industrious can come up with better tests of the Kitten filter?

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Posted by: ostracize.8316

ostracize.8316

“Rabbit” space “Chest”

Rabkittenest

as in, the chest you get from ranking up at the rabbit rank of sPvP

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Posted by: Hsinimod.5784

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It is sometimes hard to understand what someone means when ‘Kitten’ is used over normal words. It will take two words like “wish” and “it” and combine them into one sloppy word like “wiKitten”, and all meaning is thrown out the window.

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Posted by: FourthVariety.5463

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The shorthand for Eternal Battlegrounds
Example:
Ultimately the same thing happens on tkitten map.
Ultimately the same thing happens on the “EB” map.

The German word for fat: kitten

The first one I had to google, the latter being somewhat expected.

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Posted by: Fatal OEfx.5910

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“who” + “space” + “resurrect” = kittensurrect.

I guess it does not like the combination of “who” “re”. LOL

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Posted by: Navi.7142

Navi.7142

“t r u s t f u l” should not be trukittenl

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Posted by: Darkorical.9213

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like if I was to start complaining about mikitten * m i s h i t s * on my necro
or if I asked since we have mushrooms in this game if we would see kittenake * s h i t a k e * mushrooms when we eventually traveled to cantha again.

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Posted by: Pandemoniac.4739

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It stinks that certain folks can’t just let the filter be and have to try to bypass it with spaces.

My suggestion for ANet would be to check if the words before and after the space against a dictionary to see if they’re real words (and of course not on the naughty list). That way only the misspelled and abbreviated stuff will get unfairly kittened.

Don’t ever think you know what’s right for the other person.
He might start thinking he knows what’s right for you.
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Posted by: Hsinimod.5784

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“t r u s t f u l” should not be trukittenl

Finally, I know what it means.

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Posted by: CaveSalamander.9150

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Posting to test: squikittenoons

Edit: A-HA! “squishy” and “toons” don’t apparently like each other.. Found this on a thread discussing glass cannon builds XD

I must admit, the bloody bugger is pretty smart filtering variations too >_>

My quest is to find the dorito.

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Posted by: Mr eX.3420

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This is a clbuttic mistake.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skittenhorpe_problem

edit: hah! the wordfilter broke my link. talk about meta-humor

Here is a link that won’t break: https://www.google.com/search?q=clbuttic+wikipedia

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Posted by: Nefaria.7659

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The phrase: “and. I. keep.” is becoming “ankittenep”

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/audio/DirectSong-Updates/312352

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Posted by: Razzy.2741

Razzy.2741

“finikitten” = F I N I S H it.

Probably the “sh” ending and “it” make silly cats think it’s a kitten

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Posted by: synk.6907

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wow
So the filter is set up to try to catch people dumping spaces into swear words and phrases and making it even more needlessly complicated to post an actual post. Good times...

What’s wrong with limiting the filter to the exact words and just manually warning the few folks who go out of their way to get around it? You’ll never get a simple forum word filter to intelligently parse a word/phrase/sentence, so this just generates a lot of false positives and tosses "kitten" into weird places.

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Posted by: Drake Phoenix.6158

Drake Phoenix.6158

So I didn’t notice this when I first posted the message, so I don’t know if it was changed after the original posting or not, but I found an odd place where language that could not possibly be regarded as profanity was replaced by the forum profanity filter.

In my post at https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/story/I-too-dislike-Trahearne-Spoilers/324467 in the first paragraph (after the quoted section) the filter system replaced the words “who”, “really”, and “cares” (in proper order) with “kittenally cares”.

Now unlike some people who find the filter system annoying, I really don’t mind it so much on most occasions. But in this particular case, I can’t see how that particular three word phrase could possibly be construed as even remotely offensive and deserving of replacement. As such, I cannot help but consider this a bug in the filter database.

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Posted by: kitanas.3596

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um, I think you forgot the space between who and really. now if we remove the “ally” which it didn’t censor, we are left with “who” and “re”. do you see now why it was censored?

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Posted by: Drake Phoenix.6158

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um, I think you forgot the space between who and really. now if we remove the “ally” which it didn’t censor, we are left with “who” and “re”. do you see now why it was censored?

No, if I click on the edit button and re-check the original text, it does have a space between “who” and “really”, I did not forget it. Now that you point out the possible word that is being filtered, it does make sense, but it also shows that the filtering system is too aggressive. If the system is going to filter based on adjacent words (or at least segments of letters separated by a space) rather than single words only, then it should only do so if those adjacent words do not make up an actual phrase, and it should take into account the full words, not just partials.

As it is, would the system also filter out the contraction of “who” and “are”? That would be even closer to the filter word than what I had actually used, but would use a punctuation instead of a space, and still would be a complete, correct, and unoffensive word that should not be filtered. I understand the desire to keep the language on the forums clean, but that is going too far. It seems to me that the code that checks for language to be filtered is too simplistic and does not take the flow of language properly into consideration. The code should be much more sophisticated than “ignore all whitespace and filter any combination of letters that matches the filter database”.

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Posted by: Drake Phoenix.6158

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OK, now that I have read more of the previous posts and have a clearer idea of how the filtering system is working, it is quite clear that the filter system is grossly simplistic and inherently flawed because of it’s simplicity. The system clearly is not set up to distinguish words, and is simply triggering on any and all combinations which (ignoring whitespace, and some but not all punctuation) match the filter database. This is far too simplistic… and lazy for that matter. It is time-consuming, but not particularly difficult to program a string filter that can track better than that…

1. Find sub-string which matches filter trigger from database.
2. Find characters immediately before and after the sub-string.
3. If character immediately before sub-string is an alpha character, do not filter.
4. If the character immediately following the sub-string is an alpha character, do not filter.

Checking full words that make a legitimate phrase but would be offensive if the space was removed would be more complex, because you would have to also set up a database of whitelisted phrases. But once such a databse is established, it would be easy to add into the filter system…

6. If sub-string contains a space, check phrase against phrase whitelist, and if present, do not filter.

7. Otherwise, ignore whitespace and filter normally.

This would make for a much more effective system that would still catch the vast majority of profanity and successfully filter it out, while at the same time significantly reducing the number of false positives that are incorrectly filtered out.

Mr eX’s Wikipedia link is extremely relevant. Dead on, in fact.

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Posted by: Stylva.7461

Stylva.7461

This is a clbuttic mistake.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skittenhorpe_problem

edit: hah! the wordfilter broke my link. talk about meta-humor :)

Here is a link that won’t break: https://www.google.com/search?q=clbuttic+wikipedia

OMG I’m dying from laughter over here.. :D

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Posted by: Shaileya.7063

Shaileya.7063

I cannot type frankly, followed by though. It turns into frankittenhough.

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Posted by: Eleri Tezhme.3048

Eleri Tezhme.3048

giggle this reminds me of the filter in another game that kept bleeping manuscript.

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Posted by: Icecat.4528

Icecat.4528

LM … off.

Thanks for the laugh. Most Fun. Priceless.

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Posted by: delmarqo.5038

delmarqo.5038

In this post I wrote “quickittenhe worlds” but the actual statement that is posted is “quickittenhe”, so it basically replace “ly t” with “kitten”. See attached before and after.

Am I old school enough to not know of some nefarious connotation for “ly t”, or is it a profanity filter bug?

Attachments:

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Posted by: MilConDoin.3420

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“ly t” is not all that was changed, you forgot the leading “k” (or else you would have kkitten). This is a phonetic resemblance to a word commonly used to refer to some part of a woman. The profanity filter ignores whitespaces, which results in this kind of bug.

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Posted by: MilConDoin.3420

MilConDoin.3420

A forum user with the name “Tris” “megistos” (normally written together) is censored, if somebody quotes a post from him → Trikittenistos. (example at https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/suggestions/Menu-option-to-make-AOE-s-autotarget-selected-target/403608).
Thanks to the word filter, i learn new swear words

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Posted by: delmarqo.5038

delmarqo.5038

Ah thanks Mil. That does make sense.

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Posted by: Account.9832

Account.9832

Please add some way to disable the filter in our account options. I’d much rather see what people actually wrote than have to mentally go through a list of swearwords every time something gets rendered as “kitten” and I need to figure out what was there originally to make sense of the sentence.

- Al Zheimer

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We currently have no plans to offer an option to disable the swear filter.

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Posted by: Donjo.9042

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Odd occurrences aside, this is definitely one of the most humorous swear filters I’ve ever seen. Everyone loves kittens!

To stay on topic, other people have noticed that all of the “odd” words and phrases being kittenified contain substrings that are words that a swear filter would catch. I found it surprising that they even caught acronyms that contained swear words.

What this means is that the filter is working… too well! dun Dun DUN!

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Posted by: Pandemoniac.4739

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Lol, yeah I always preview before posting to make sure the filter didn’t mangle something. I’ve learned lots of new ways to be offensive should te need arise

Don’t ever think you know what’s right for the other person.
He might start thinking he knows what’s right for you.
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Posted by: Isila.2574

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Sorry everybody, there was a bug with some updates to the filter. Please continue to report any bugs you find here in this thread. The most fun bug has been corrected at this time.

It’s not a bug with individual words, it’s just a preposterously overzealous filter in general.

You can’t use ‘quickly’ and ‘to’ next to each other because of the last three plus the first one. That’s not even a swear (at least not in any version of English), it’s a horrible misspelling of a part of human anatomy.

You can’t say that something took place 1.5 weeks ago, because ‘half’ and ‘ago’ are just one whitespace-and-context-ignoring filter away from getting kittened.

You can’t just ignore context and whitespace and do a blanket search for character patterns like that.

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Posted by: Sami.1560

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Found this one: kitten cooldown

formed from:

a
5s
cooldown

5s as in 5 seconds. It’s combining the “a” and “5s” into a swear and filtering it.

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Posted by: Dibrom.6408

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Four Seven Five Three
type those numbers, nothing shows
Dot Four Seven Five Three
becomes: kitten /p>

Are they the numbers we don’t speak of?

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Good catch. This false positive has been fixed, including several others that were reported in this thread. Thanks for your reports.

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Posted by: XcomCaveRat.4059

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Hello,

I couldn’t post some links in Tech Support section due to the censor:

Example: http://www.lucidlogix.com/driverdownloadkittenml

Everything with “s dot html” is kittened.

Gandara

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Posted by: Derk.3189

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Btw, any chance you guys might look at the character creator regarding the same issues for naming characters?

So a number of japanese names can’t be used either, really common ones like “Kinoshi” “ta”, “Yamashi” “ta”…

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Hello,

I couldn’t post some links in Tech Support section due to the censor:

Example: http://www.lucidlogix.com/driverdownloads.html

Everything with “s dot html” is kittened.

Sorry about that, this one has also been fixed.

Btw, any chance you guys might look at the character creator regarding the same issues for naming characters?

So a number of japanese names can’t be used either, really common ones like “Kinoshi” “ta”, “Yamashi” “ta”…

The in-game character name filter is a different system than the forum word filter. This isn’t something I have access to, unfortunately. Sorry.

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Posted by: Bombul.2506

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“god” + “amoung” = kittenound

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Posted by: Bombul.2506

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even when spelled correctly, lol

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Posted by: Somna.5168

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re + target = kittenget

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Posted by: perfect.5198

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"Should I’ keep going" (without the apostrophe near the I) is being filtered as ’shoulkittenep’. From here.

-p

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Posted by: RShara.3265

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Witch’s ‘hat is being kittened into Witch’kitten lol. Makes talking about the new hat rather entertaining!

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Posted by: GregT.4702

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“I let them fight ankittenep moving.”

The censored words are “and”, “I”, and “keep”.

Presumably censoring a marginally impolite term for a lesbian, but nevertheless swear filter fail.